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Old 10-19-2009, 06:14 AM
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Thumbs up The Pretender - Dragon Ersatz M10.

I have been waiting ages for this kit to come out, so as soon as i got it i started it.
I have also done a Tamiya Willys Jeep built OOB. This will be parked next to it and some figures in American and German gear talking. I have modelled this as the B7 vehicle a short time before it was knocked out.
photo courtesy of concord Panther .


The front left guard and light were damaged as was someof the side skirts. I have left off the muzzle break and added the thread. I have also added the partial left over weld beads from removing the tool stowage (stretched sprue)and track racks. I saw this done by Sam Dwyer as well as finding it in the profile info in tankpower vol 7. I also borrowed Sam's great idea of the German tow cable attached at the rear (thanks Sammy )- great idea.
I used a set of Anvil workable tracks I had hanging around as they were easier to assemble on the vehicle with the side guards on. The barrel is an Aber as I hate plastic barrels (I don't care how Magic they are).
I also added the track holding pins and thinned out the brackets and added them to sections of cut plastic. Track pins are from Alders nest.





I will go with the Tankpower profile for painting but I am not sure when I will start as I have the 17cm to finish off.

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Old 10-19-2009, 06:42 AM
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The build looks great. Waiting to see it painted!
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:11 AM
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Hey Ian,

Nice looking build-up. I'd love to see you tackle that building in the photos as well.....yes?

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Old 10-19-2009, 10:17 AM
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Dear Ian.

Great choice!...the weld seams look great...I´m sure that in your hands a masterpiece will be born!

Wainting anxiously for new updates....regards....Luiz.
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:29 PM
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Gday Hilly

Nice job on the Pretender. Its a great kit and i'm looking forward to seeing your treatment. I think my next one will have battle damage too.

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Old 10-20-2009, 09:01 PM
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Thanks everyone for your interest and replies.MAECTPO, Lupanzer, rick and Sam.

Rick, I'm not sure about the building. I am tempted to do the wall as a backdrop but I still haven't made up my mind on a location as yet.

Sam, battle damage is always a good move.

For the paint , this is my theory......
Vehicle is in a medium to dark color. I am not going to go for the Olive Drab, but a german mixture of green, as reading up on the whole operation I don't feel the Germans would have had any American paint. They had been in full retreat since Normandy and (to the best of my knowledge) had not captured any American supply depots . They were also trying to keep this secret as well, so I doubt they would have been trying to get original paint through other sources - Otto Skorzeny was the only person outside of high command who new of the operation. Plus, even though they went to the trouble of copy vehicles, they did this because of the lack of opportunity to get American captured euipement. I think they just mixed up a Green that they thought was close , and this would have been based on the myriad of new and faded Shermans and such they they would have encountered up to this point.
As this was a visual trick to be used at a distance and not meant to be 'swallowed up close, I dont think that they would have gone to a lot of trouble with the paint at the back and under the side plates. The rear plate is only up to half way and a plane could easily see it has a 'fixed lid' and is not an open top like a m10. Photos neither confirm or cross out this theory so I will follow this thinking when I paint mine so that it is a bit of fun (and as usual probably a little conroversial) :shock: .
If anyone has more info to the contrary, please let me know.


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An interesting subject, be keen to see how it comes along.
Also great theory on the paint issues and on perhaps making the top to look open topped from the air, really interested to see what you do there
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Nice build Ian. The damaged fender is well done.

No arguments here about your color theory.
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...but a german mixture of green...
Hi Ian,

Consider one of the German Luftwaffe Greens if not a camouflage green.

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Hi Ian, your build looks good, and I also like your paint theory. I'm planning on doing this one myself. FWIW, one thing I have discovered after a little research, this tank (and I believe the others as well) did have the muzzle brake on before it was knocked out/abandoned. I have one pic of it shortly after the battle covered in snow and the muzzle brake is still there.

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