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Old 11-22-2006, 03:10 PM
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Panzer IV Ausf. C, 2 tone Camo

I need a brake from my luchs project, so I started with a Dragons Panzer IV Ausf. C.
Nice kit so far, you soon will find pictures in my workbench section.
Now to my question:

According to my rarely references at least six Ausf. C were used in the Normandy.
One/or some of them were painted in a two-tone hardedge yellow/green camo scheme.
I totally fell in love with this combination, and as far as I have never done a hard edge camo, this project will be a great exercise for me.

Does someone of you have any pictures or information about the 2 tone tanks?
I couldn’t find one picture in my references (Internet, Spielberger and the Achtung Panzer book

Thanks for your support,
Cheers Manuel
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:04 PM
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Two tone Panzer IV

Hello Manuel,

All I have is a color profile of a IV B in Normandie 1944. The profile and a picture of that tank appear in the Francja 1944 vol. I published by Wydawnictwo Militaria a Polish publisher.

Hope this helps

Tom
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:23 PM
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Hi Manuel
If you can find the old Osprey book in the Vanguard series no 18 "The Panzerkampfwagen IV" there is a picture and a color profile of a PZ IV /C from panzer reg 22 , 21 Pz div. Normandy in 1944 in two tone camuflage..
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Old 11-22-2006, 10:29 PM
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Dan

Here are some photos of a Normandy 1944 PzKpfw IV ausf C built by a local modeler, William Sum who builds most of Tristar's pre-release kits.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/17738...0066/IV+Ausf.C

The tracks and sprockets are from the original DML 3-in-1 kit. The bolts on the sprocket have also been repositioned.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/17738...D5%B0%D2%B2%C4

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Old 11-23-2006, 01:44 AM
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G'Day all
Here is some more of William Sum's IV/C at the Hong Kong RMS 13. Very nice work by a master .
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http://www.pbase.com/rms13_1/rms13
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Old 11-23-2006, 03:02 AM
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What is sure is that there were some B in 8th Company of the 22 Regiment, in 21.Panzerdivision.

I haven´t seen any C. The main difference is the co-axial machine gun in the mantelet, C was reinforced.

In the charts of forces of the unit they only mention short barrel Panzer IV. The well-known picture of the two-tone camo vehicle does not show the distiction feature so we donnot know for sure which model it is.

You could go also with a C, but I haven´t seen a picture of one in Normandy.

There is a picture of a B in a French town with a Rommalkiste. It appears in Militaria hors serie and in Heindal´s 21 Panzerdision book.


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I think the photo that Antonio refers to is "Heidi". This is from Francja 1944 Vol 1 - Wydawnictwo Militaria. "Heidi" does not have the two tone camo. I have seen the photo of the two tone Pz IV and it has been abandoned. I will post it when I find it.



More photos of "Heidi" in Sturm & Drang PzKpfw IV






The color plate from Franjca 1944 Vol 1


Color plate from New Vanguard 28


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Old 11-23-2006, 02:22 PM
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Tanks for your fantastic support!

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In the charts of forces of the unit they only mention short barrel Panzer IV.
I checked my references ones again. You are absolutely right, achtung panzer does also not mention wich Pz. IV were in use, only:

6 short barrel model belong to the 8 kompanie panzer regiment 22 according to a document dated 1st June 1944.

As it is not absolutely clear, I will go for the Ausf. C (Already started the model), more to came later this night in my workbench section.

Once again thanks for your superb support, you really helped me!

Cheers Manuel
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Ok I have a question.

Is it possible to build this two-tone Pz IV C in 1944 directly from the Tristar kit?

I am in a bit of a hurry right now and thus I haven't had the chance to read through all the comments in this thread so forgive me if the question has been a answered allready.
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Old 11-23-2006, 05:41 PM
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Hi Siim,

I think you can build it with both kits. I just started my thread in the workbench section. I will use the Dragon kit.
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