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David Diaz 06-11-2007 01:09 PM

New Airbrush
 
Hello everyone!

Recently I have been thinking of getting a replacement for my of old Badger airbrush.
I am just not sure of what brand or model I should pick. Lately I have been looking into Iwata airbrushes but I am not sure if they are a good deal, they seem kind of expensive.

Anybody has any suggestions?? :confused:

Thanks in advance

Dave

RickLawler 06-11-2007 01:26 PM

David...what Badger are you using? I've got a Badger 200G w/fine tip and needle and like it fine....I switched from the bottom feed and that made everything all better for me.

Rick

Jan Peters 06-11-2007 01:34 PM

If you can find one, try and get the H&S Evolution, it is the best AB i've ever had, nice fine spray, and very easy to clean! ;)
Jan :)

lquah 06-11-2007 02:04 PM

Dave

I am using Gunze's MrHobby Procon Boy FWA Double Action Platinum 0.2mm
(what a mouthful :)) It's a very good airbrush, easier to use and clean and itdoesn't clog when spraying Vallejo.

There's a PSI control valve at the bottom front of the airbrush and it's allows you to adjust the air pressure on the fly. Nice feature to have.

I got it from a LHS but you can get it from Rainbow Ten.

Lazza

Kreighshoer 06-11-2007 02:59 PM

hi david ...

i use a badger 150 and a badger 100 myself but i am thinking of an additional one ... until two weeks ago i absolutely wanted an iwata but then i informed me on evolution airbrushes - they are brilliant!

i'd go for a harder&steenbeck evolution 2in1 ... it costs as much as the iwata cri but has two nozzle types - 0,2 and 0,4mm ... and it's a gravity feed

or better: go for the h&s infinity ... it's my dream of sleepless nights and most probably i'll get myself that one :D

http://www.airbrush4you.de/shop/cont...stance_cap.gif

http://www.airbrush4you.de/shop/cont...a/infinity.jpg

cheers

Andrew Hall 06-11-2007 03:29 PM

David, whatever you get I would suggest getting one with a preset feature i.e. you can't pull the trigger past your preset setting. This is really helps you to paint consistent lines.

Iwatas are very nice :thumb:

Andrew

tamigawa 06-11-2007 07:09 PM

WTF Laura?! That line HAS to be a fake. lol ;)

I've been using a Thyler and Chandler Vega 1000. It's a gravity feed double action.

Whichever one you pick, get it from Bearair.com they have absolutly phenomonal prices (check against the manufacture's list price) and their service is good too:

http://bearair.com/

RickLawler 06-11-2007 07:35 PM

Good tip on Bearair Fletcher...I went through DixieArt for mine, $45 w/free shipping (1 week) vs $39 @ Bear...though I didn't see shipping charges...

:)
Rick

Goody Goody, new toys for Dave.

Plushy 06-11-2007 09:16 PM

I used to have a Badger 200 with the Crown nozzle and fine tip but changed to a Tamiya Spray Work HG-T as it has a nicer feel in my hand and you can lock the needle position in place for painting consistant lines , but it doesnt like the lifecolor paints much even when they are heavily thinned so i have ordered a Iwata Micron CM-C Plus which i hope to get soon :D now i just have to buy a decent air compressor :( .

Jan Peters 06-11-2007 11:05 PM

This is what i'm using atm:
http://www.airbrush-services-almere....ine%20solo.jpg
harder&steenbeck evolution 2in1 silverline :cool:
The wheel at the back let's you control the maximum paintflow, and i have an aditional valve at the botom to control the airflow.
Jan ;)

Larry Bates 06-12-2007 12:07 AM

wow, so much control...........makes me want another :rolleyes:

(no, no, no......) :p Nice freekin brushes Laura. :thumb:

Laz

Panzergrenadier 06-12-2007 02:35 AM

Fletcher, I use the same brush. Only mine is a Revell rebox but it is the same.;)

How do you like it, I think it is ok but it is a little temperamental with different thinners?

holmerz 06-12-2007 04:14 AM

I would go with the H&S Revolution as well. You can check out the prices here, I don't think you'll find H&S products any cheaper.

http://www.obeeliks.com/index.html?lang=en-gb

Although the shop is located in Europe, you can choose to have your stuff shipped with TNT and it'll be on your doorstep in a matter of days.

AndyD 06-12-2007 06:00 AM

For the harder&steenbeck evolution 2in1 silverline which set do you recomend - the 0.15 and 0.2 or the 0.2 and 0.4 ?
Cheers,

smithery 06-12-2007 06:48 AM

I'm using the Thayer & Chandler Omni 4000. It's a gravity fed dual action, with a permanently attached color cup (and it's a big one at 1/3 oz). It gives me good control, sprays fine lines, easy to clean, and robust construction.

Best of all, it use your existing Badger hose.

Jan Peters 06-12-2007 10:47 AM

Andy, 0.15 and 0.2 are great for modelling, i have both, but have only used the 0.2 untill now, as it gives very nice and small lines, the 0.15 will be able to produce lines as small as a pencil line (so i heard)
Jan :)

Panzergrenadier 06-12-2007 11:21 AM

I feel a bit sad with my 0,5 nozzle.:(:(

holmerz 06-12-2007 01:03 PM

I have the 0.2/0.4 set. I use the 0.4 for large area covering and the 0.2 to the more delicate paint jobs. It works fine for me, but with that said I don't have that much experience on airbrushes as the Evolution is the only one I ever had.

Regards

Erik

DOJO 06-12-2007 04:44 PM

sorry to jump like this. If you want me to make an other post i will.

Harder & Steenbeck Airbrush Colani 0.4 mm what about this AB? As I want something with a trigger and bigger cup. Anyone tried it?

Larry Bates 06-12-2007 09:54 PM

Ruslan,

I saw this guys stuff a couple of years ago, the airbrushes were really nice. Check them out.

Laz

http://www.grextools.com/grexairbrush/index.php5

David Diaz 06-13-2007 11:32 AM

Thanks for all the advise! You guys are the best!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickLawler (Post 42440)
David...what Badger are you using? I've got a Badger 200G w/fine tip and needle and like it fine....I switched from the bottom feed and that made everything all better for me.

Rick

Rick, I have a Badger 200, and its been in service for like 11 years now. So do you think gravity feed is better than bottom feed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hall (Post 42462)
David, whatever you get I would suggest getting one with a preset feature i.e. you can't pull the trigger past your preset setting. This is really helps you to paint consistent lines.

Iwatas are very nice :thumb:

Andrew

Yes I was looking into one with a preset feature. So far I prefer single action to double action just because I feel its easier to control the consistency of lines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreighshoer (Post 42458)
hi david ...

i use a badger 150 and a badger 100 myself but i am thinking of an additional one ... until two weeks ago i absolutely wanted an iwata but then i informed me on evolution airbrushes - they are brilliant!

i'd go for a harder&steenbeck evolution 2in1 ... it costs as much as the iwata cri but has two nozzle types - 0,2 and 0,4mm ... and it's a gravity feed

or better: go for the h&s infinity ... it's my dream of sleepless nights and most probably i'll get myself that one :D

cheers

Thanks Laura,

I have actually looked up all the models the guys have suggested and so far I think H&S is the way to go.

I checked the site Fletcher suggested (thanks Fletch) but they donít carry H&S, the site Eric suggested has very low prices indeed (thanks Eric( however I didnít see the H&S infinity. I will be looking further into this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOJO (Post 42587)
sorry to jump like this. If you want me to make an other post i will.

Harder & Steenbeck Airbrush Colani 0.4 mm what about this AB? As I want something with a trigger and bigger cup. Anyone tried it?

No problem at all Ruslan, the discussion is for everyoneís benefits. After all the more aspects we discuss about airbrushes the better we all are.

Thanks to all you guys for the help.

Dave

holmerz 06-13-2007 03:05 PM

David the H&S Infinity can be found here:

http://www.obeeliks.com/index.html?lang=en-gb

Should be listed under:Home > Airbrush > Airbrushes

\Erik

tamigawa 06-13-2007 03:13 PM

Quote:

So do you think gravity feed is better than bottom feed?

Depends on what you use it work. For detail, i generally like gf better as you can spray at lower psi. but for general spraying, bf is fine.

I also have a Paasche VLS wich has a preset feature (it's still a dbl. action) It works well for general spraying and is pretty good at detail.


Siim, yeah I like it alot. It can sometimes act up but it is generally a good brush and it serves the purpose I wanted it for.

RickLawler 06-13-2007 03:39 PM

Dave, I'm just that lazy...gravity is so much easier for me! I get the color mix I want with my brushes on a test surface, then when I've got it nailed ( 3 drops x, 2 drops y) I just do it all in the AB cup, thin it (50/50 H2O&Windex) using an eye dropper in the cup and go....on the fly I can add a drop of light or dark and keep moving on.

Rick

DOJO 06-13-2007 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Bates (Post 42606)
Ruslan,

I saw this guys stuff a couple of years ago, the airbrushes were really nice. Check them out.

Laz

http://www.grextools.com/grexairbrush/index.php5

saw the link thanks, but didn't really thought much about those ABs.
I liked the new iwata Kustom, but the price is too much for it. I guess we are paying the "Kustom" name. Also saw Gunze Ab the one with a trigger and bigger cup, but getting parts will be an issue. And seeing Hansa'a AB, could the the one to get?

GF and BF, GF is a bit simpler to clean in my opinion, so you may think about that too.

I got Air-pro-Hansa 0.2mm for sale.

DOJO 06-28-2007 04:05 PM

You were right those Ab's are great! I was able to see and hold the Colani one and it's very good.

Totenhosen 06-28-2007 10:44 PM

Iwata Custom Micron C+

Only problem is...if you mess up anything inside the nozzle assembly, it costs about half of what you paid for the brush just to get it fixed! :(

Evan August 07-02-2007 06:31 PM

OK guys, lets talk compressors. I'm thinking of going with something from the Tamiya HG series, and I am wondering what compressor to get. The Iwata smart jet is what I'm interested in now, but the question I have is rather or not the Tamiya brush and Iwata compressor are compatible in terms of connections.

Kreighshoer 07-03-2007 01:56 AM

evan - the iwata smart jet is a very good choice! :thumb: before i bought my honsell compressor i was looking after the iwata compressor (the honsell in fact is a 1:1 clone of the smart jet) and i am absolutely satisfied with that compressor - you will like that pretty babe!

have a look here -> iwata smart jet ... there it is on sale for a very fair price (i just calculated the $ in Ä and in fact there it is 20 euro cheaper than my honsell - doh!)

the connection issue is something special - i spent a whole afternoon to evaluate which adapters i had to order to get the compressor together with my existing brushes, the air hose and the new AB but it is absolutely manageable (mine now are all interchanging with one hose for all) ... in your case i think that you don't need any adapter as if we are talking about this airbrush the connector looks like 1/8'' and that is what the iwata compressor is using ... in any case of doubt send the shop an e-mail and ask what adapters would be needed and you are on the safe side ...

hope that helped

cheers

Evan August 07-03-2007 01:13 PM

Thanks Laura!

Mark S. Pryor 07-03-2007 04:02 PM

Compressors
 
Evan,

Check out Airbrushdepot.com I got the TC-20 for my birthday :D And it has a tank! Adapters are easy to come by.


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