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Panzerjaeger
02-02-2010, 03:11 PM
These are some photos I took last summer at the Patton Museum - thought you might find them interesting or useful.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6JPFyFrN1tQ/S1CZNl_9_yI/AAAAAAAABJ8/hzuPPSEv2k4/s720/DSC_1031.JPG

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http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6JPFyFrN1tQ/S1CZOcRvpJI/AAAAAAAABKE/ZkuLfGItBPE/s720/DSC_1033.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6JPFyFrN1tQ/S1CZOrOaZ9I/AAAAAAAABKI/UaJqXnMntbM/s720/DSC_1034.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6JPFyFrN1tQ/S1CZO9UQv-I/AAAAAAAABKM/27jEd0cs0hY/s720/DSC_1035.JPG

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http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6JPFyFrN1tQ/S1CZPerpJQI/AAAAAAAABKU/qAnUfdOi-Zw/s720/DSC_1037.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6JPFyFrN1tQ/S1CZPl1I2gI/AAAAAAAABKY/DYan59O9eEs/s720/DSC_1038.JPG

gibsonfndr
02-03-2010, 01:56 AM
It sure needs a little sanding and painting uh ?
Too bad they let it rot away ...

Panzerjaeger
02-09-2010, 11:29 AM
It sure needs a little sanding and painting uh ?
Too bad they let it rot away ...

This one is actually kept indoors. It would be nice to see it remain unrestored. I don't think the restored German AFV's in the collection are all that authentically painted. . . The best part is always getting a look at the tracks and suspension. Funny, too that, the Tiger II and Panther II in the collection (like most of the vehicles) have Kitty Litter under them to absorb oil leaks.

Coops
02-10-2010, 09:16 AM
It would be nice to see it remain unrestored.

Yes and if we have any more "experts" doing a butches job on these last few we will never know they are full of sh.......

I like the idea of it being all roughed up but that muzzle brake looks like it's had the be-jesus hit out of it with a 16lb sledge hammer!!

Panzerjaeger
02-10-2010, 10:15 AM
Nifty thing too is some insight into what went under the paint.

Is it possible that this one had a waffle-pattern zimmerit job?

hondatech2k2
12-21-2010, 08:20 PM
This tank was actually pulled out of a bog in the Ukraine 64 years after it was lost. The way it looks now, is the way it was lost then. It still has the original zimmerit on it. I watched the video of them pulling it out at the Patton Museum and it was awesome!

schlichtr
12-22-2010, 11:11 AM
The way it looks now, is the way it was lost then. It still has the original zimmerit on it. I watched the video of them pulling it out at the Patton Museum and it was awesome!

I doubt there was that much red primer showing when it was lost. Its very possible that alot of the paint you see chipped off happened when they were spraying the vehicle with the high power hoses cleaning all the muck off of it. I find interesting the thinness of the zimmerit. It is not applied very heavily.

Roy

Ropi
12-22-2010, 04:07 PM
Roy
IIRC towards the end of the war before zimmerit was completely phased out, it was applied in thinner and thinner layers, due to the change of tactics of the Russians. Russians stoped using magnetic AT mines when they took the initiative, so zimm became pointless to use.

alexwencho
12-23-2010, 01:10 PM
Very interesting photos.

StuG
12-25-2010, 06:45 PM
Hi all,

Thanks for sharing this pictures.
Let’s see what we have here. It’s definitive a StuG produced at Alkett.
It was a commanding vehicle because on the right rear side of the fighting compartment it show’s a armoured antenna base.
Acceptance at Heereswaffenamt must be in all probability March 1944.

A late merry Christmas from Switzerland and sorry for my bad english
Wolfgang

gibbs
01-09-2011, 02:56 AM
thank you!
it's interesting to see a german tank with red minimum part, and the grey/black barrel!!
:):)

KuKŁiNsKi
03-16-2011, 05:41 PM
wow!
is that lower front hull area proof that when you take zimm off it will expose oxide primer?
...well at least for stug.. this version :D

alexwencho
03-17-2011, 03:05 AM
good info.

schlichtr
03-17-2011, 08:47 AM
wow!
is that lower front hull area proof that when you take zimm off it will expose oxide primer?
...well at least for stug.. this version :D

Yes, I believe the zim was applied right over the primer. It would be a waste of time to paint it, zim it, then paint it again. Also note, It is my opinion that much of the zim and paint that is missing was as a result of being cleaned with high pressure water after it was pulled up out of the muck.

Roy

KuKŁiNsKi
04-02-2011, 06:47 PM
one nice...one =D pinkstug =)
http://tietokannat.mil.fi/data/2034/3

StuG
04-09-2011, 07:52 AM
Very interessting Pic you have linked KuKŁiNsKi.
Why? Because the Hull has a engine air outlet with reduced segments.
This means the hull must be from the second delivery to finnland in summer 44.
Production of this hull was from May 44 onwarts by Alkett. If i can trust my eye's the internal stiffeners have reduced bolts too. I can see only 2 instead of 3. Production of this hulls by alkett was from June 44 onwarts.
But the roof is the old one. In production by Alkett from February 43 to April 44.
This configuration must be taken by the finnish troops. Because i have nevers seen this in original wartime pictures.
It would be very interesting to know the chassis no or the finnish registration no of this vehicle.
Sorry for my bad english

Wolfgang

KuKŁiNsKi
04-09-2011, 09:51 AM
wow... i just liked how pink it looks =D
damn i can't remember where i found this pic so i could look for more data...
i think that there were actually more pic.. will try to find it again =)