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panzerjager
01-02-2009, 08:40 AM
I don't know is this GB is still open; if not, please somebody move the thread to my workbench.
Well, I think this is an excellent kit, with a marvelous zimmerit engraved on plastic, and in many parts. You can see reviews here:

http://www.dragon-models.com/html/6454poster.htm

http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/mps/uan/923

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=3215

http://www.network54.com/Forum/477322/message/1209420631/Kit%2C+Cyberhobby+6454%2C+10.5cm+Sturmhaubitze+42+ Ausf.G+w-Zimmerit

General Info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmhaubitze_42

http://ovidiu.sturmgeschutz.googlepages.com/profile

http://www.chamtec.com/stuh42g.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huSm2tU5uUM Video en fábrica


AFV Interiors back up, provided by James Tainton (thanks James)

https://panzerfaust.sslpowered.com/planetArmor/stug1.html

https://panzerfaust.sslpowered.com/planetArmor/stug2.html

https://panzerfaust.sslpowered.com/planetArmor/stug3.html

Some pics of StuG III

http://www.planetarmor.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4787

https://panzerfaust.sslpowered.com/planetArmor/stug%20web/index.htm (237 fotos)

http://panzerkeil.dre.hu/harcjarm/harcjarmuvek.htm

Gallery StuH 42

http://www.panzernet.net/panzernet/stranky/galerie/samohybky/galeriestuh42.php

Museums

Patton Museum - 83 fotos http://protein.informatics.indiana.edu/jaalbrec/panzerdb/museum/stuh42.html

There is no much to show of the building

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2851.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2852.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2927.jpg


The problem with this kit is the wrong color schemes/units, as I discussed here:

http://www.planetarmor.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5807

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/thread/1230593572/Dragon%27s+mistake-

Fortunatley, a friend give a saukopf mantlet, so I have more options to buid; I still don't know if it will be StuH or StuG

Regards

Darío

panzerjager
01-04-2009, 09:11 PM
More advances:

Left side track and some interiors:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2952.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2953.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2954.jpg


One of the fail of Dragon's kit: the fenders support, MIAG style instead of ALkket style. I've tried to fix this mistake using the parts provided and, of course, plastic cell phone card

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2955.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2956.jpg

Regards

Darío

Primus
01-05-2009, 06:08 AM
Hey Dario. I just spotted this build (http://www.militarymodelling.com/forum/forummessages.asp?dt=1&UTN=9067&last=1&V=6&SP=) at another forum. Please, take a look.:thumb:
Primož

panzerjager
01-05-2009, 08:02 AM
Zooooooommmmmmmmmm! Let's go!!!!!! Thanks! :D

Darío

panzerjager
01-11-2009, 01:25 PM
Little advances: right hand side tracks and some details on radios. I think this is a kommand vehicle, as it carries Fu 5 + Fu 16

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2957.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2958.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2960.jpg

Regards

Darío

Flak
01-12-2009, 12:26 AM
Looks pretty cool...

panzerjager
01-17-2009, 09:03 PM
Thanks, Flak

More advances:


Some interiors details, like the projetile box (for 12 rounds, I dont know where it carries the other 24, under the floor, maybe?) and 2 more boxes for ammo cases
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2966-800.jpg

Schurzen supports, made from copper sheet and a folder machine
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2969.jpg

All interior painted in white
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2970-1024.jpg

rear pintle chains
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2972-1024.jpg

More interior details
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2976-1024.jpg

Regards

Darío

Andreas Larka
01-18-2009, 09:53 AM
Some interiors details, like the projetile box (for 12 rounds, I dont know where it carries the other 24, under the floor, maybe?) and 2 more boxes for ammo cases

Nope. Not under the floor. But like this:

http://www.andreaslarka.net/ps531045/2006_53104534.jpg

panzerjager
01-18-2009, 06:07 PM
Thanks Andreas, but...that picture is not from a 7,5 cm StuG III?

I got this picture, I think from Spielberger book, and I see the Jari Lievonen's StuH too:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/StuH42-102.jpg

http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/german/sturmhaub_jlievonen3.jpg

And thanks for your excellente web page too

Regards

Darío

panzerjager
01-18-2009, 06:21 PM
More painting on the interiors:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2988-1024.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2991-1024.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN2992-1024.jpg

Regards

Darío

Andreas Larka
01-19-2009, 04:55 AM
Thanks Andreas, but...that picture is not from a 7,5 cm StuG III?

Oooh! That's right! It's a StuH you are building... "I am so broke, I can't even pay attention..." :o

If I recall correctly, the StuH has another ammunition bin right behind the commander, on the floor into the side of the engine-compartment. I believe there are some pics of it in the "Achtung Panzer" -book.

panzerjager
01-23-2009, 05:34 PM
More advances:
Interior with a light filter in "cream" color:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3095-1024.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3096-1024.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3100-1024.jpg

Some Schürzen supports
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3101-1024.jpg

Casemate roof in place, not glued
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3105-1024.jpg

If I must to glue the casemate roof, still something of the interior will be visible if the cupola was remove
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3107-1024.jpg

Preparing other parts of schürzen support
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3092.jpg

Hope you like

Darío

gibsonfndr
01-24-2009, 02:22 AM
Nice interior Dario.
A couple of questions tho' ...
- I do not really know about the StuGs interior but i thought these with radio on both sides had to be Befehls tanks ? not suitable for a StuH I'd say, but again I may be totally wrong. (*)
- I take yours is a no rotative cupola ?


(*) Of course any information is most welcome.

panzerjager
01-24-2009, 09:36 AM
Yes, Laurente, It seems strange to me too, I really don't know if a StuH may be act as command vehicle, but I suppose it did. Maybe it was another mistake of Dragon (remember our discussion about those mistakes: http://www.planetarmor.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5807 ) I suppose Dragon based in 304 tank

And, again, I supposse the cupola is not rotative, because my model is a mid production vehicle. Do you find any mistake in this point? Just let me know, please!

Cheers

Darío

gibsonfndr
01-24-2009, 11:42 AM
Yes, Laurente, It seems strange to me too, I really don't know if a StuH may be act as command vehicle, but I suppose it did. Maybe it was another mistake of Dragon (remember our discussion about those mistakes: http://www.planetarmor.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5807 ) I suppose Dragon based in 304 tank

And, again, I supposse the cupola is not rotative, because my model is a mid production vehicle. Do you find any mistake in this point? Just let me know, please!

Cheers

DaríoNo problem with the cupola but the Befels StuH seems very odd to me. Dragon never realy took care of that as they simply took the interior of the StuG g and put it there so just as their StuG G is a command tank then this one ends up beeing one.
I still do not know for sure but there were only 3 Befehls StuGs in the entire StuG Abt and the K.St.N. of the time (44) seems to expressly name them as StuG L/48. Now I found another information but as it comes along with strange and silly facts I do not really trust them at this very moment. Stay tuned.

panzerjager
01-26-2009, 10:32 PM
Hmmm...I'm afraid my befehl StuH will be "unique" ah? :(

Anyway.....

Schürzen and rear frames done, using copper and brass sheet, and some plastic cell-phone cards

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3129.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3132.jpg


I still have to glue the bolts to every frame

Regards

Darío

panzerjager
01-30-2009, 02:32 PM
Base color and some mud

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3168.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3171.jpg

Regards

Darío

panzerjager
01-31-2009, 10:14 PM
Some tools and accesories, still not glued (and with in progress paint job)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3183-1024.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3184-1024.jpg

Cheers

Darío

Flak
02-01-2009, 08:28 PM
Look really nice...

panzerjager
02-11-2009, 05:10 PM
Thanks Marco!

Almost finished, I think it need just little "touches here and there"

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3311.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3312.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3313.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3314.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3315-1024.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3316-1024.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3317-1024.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/DSCN3319.jpg

Cheers

Darío

Gopher
02-12-2009, 01:48 AM
Looks nice Dario!

gibsonfndr
02-12-2009, 02:46 AM
nice one Dario !
my own personnal taste tends to having me to disagree with the oxide red on the gunner's hatches ... I don't think this part would've been left unpainted, but your StuH looks good for sure.

Flak
02-12-2009, 08:49 AM
Looks really nice...I like it :thumb:

panzerjager
02-14-2009, 11:08 AM
Thanks guys!
Laurent, my "theory" is that the vehicle was painted in dunkelgelb with the hatches closed, and then...the edged remained in red primer; I'm wrong? You know you can correct me if you want; thanks

And this is the end :D

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/1024DSCN3406.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/1024DSCN3405.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/1024DSCN3404.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/1024DSCN3402.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/1024DSCN3401.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/1024DSCN3399.jpg

Cheers

Darío

gibsonfndr
02-15-2009, 02:45 AM
dario. A couole of days ago I found this pic and thought of you :

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/gibsonfndr/trappedetigre.jpg

Of course it is a Tiger but that's how it looks on war time pics of the StuGs too.
Maybe the tank was not painted with hatches closed I guess but without the hatches on. They would then be painted the same color as the tank so in your case it's Dunkelgelb, inside and outside. Of course this part is covered by the hatch when closed so it is cleaner than the outside of the tank.

By the way, nice job you did on this one !

panzerjager
02-15-2009, 09:46 AM
Yep! It sounds logical too!! I'll try it in next projects. Thanks!!!!

Darío

Markus
02-15-2009, 09:59 AM
Hey Dario,
even though there is this flaw with the incorrect hatches, I still love this StuG!
Great work mate!

panzerjager
02-15-2009, 10:11 AM
Thanks Markus!

More points for Laurent's theory

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/pzjager/08StuH42/Stug-080.jpg

Regards

Darío

wittman
08-01-2009, 03:03 AM
great job!!! dario.

I am building another stug, but my model is an old old stug from tamiya, and yours details is too poor. I loved you work.

cheers.

T90
08-01-2009, 04:36 PM
Hi Dario
I like it very much...Well done my friend...Great...:)