DML 251/6 Ausf.C

[James Tainton]

Hmmm not sure if this one really even existed-but I'll build it anyway.-
http://members.shaw.ca/panzerboy/DML251.6/dml6206.jpg

[sharkmouth]

Hi James,

Can you post pictures of the sprues that are specific to this version? Thanks in advance,
Saúl García

[James Tainton]

Originally posted by sharkmouth@Dec 13 2004, 12:34 PM
Hi James,

Can you post pictures of the sprues that are specific to this version? Thanks in advance,
Saúl García

here is a scan of the parts list it appears the "F" and "G" are the main ones- a few extra figure and PE ones as well but. I'll try to get pics of the real items.
http://members.shaw.ca/panzerboy/DML251.6/2516instructionparts.jpg

[James Tainton]

Here is a review at PMMS
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/revi...agon/dr6206.htm (http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/dragon/dr6206.htm)
now does anyone know of any of these vehicles!! Any pictures??? :o

There is the link to one
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/pit/3515/251/251-6c2.jpg

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?foru...geid=1090422231 (http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=47207&messageid=1090422231)

but I think I saw this 251 in one of the Concorde books described as a 251/3 Ausf. C not /6. I'll hopefully run across that again... hmmm...
there is this link for one in a german language forum but my german is schlect and the babelfish didn't work- what does it say???
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?foru...geid=1098107252 (http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=240281&messageid=1098107252)


and there is this
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/pit/3515/251/#m6

[Markus]

Hey James,
I will try to translate that stuff for you these days.
Will take some days for me though as i´m very busy the days before x-mas.
So if you want to wait, no problem man.

[James Tainton]

Originally posted by Markus@Dec 14 2004, 06:10 AM
Hey James,
I will try to translate that stuff for you these days.
Will take some days for me though as i´m very busy the days before x-mas.
So if you want to wait, no problem man.
Well it doesn't have to be exact- I think the gist of it is they end up saying to go to that address I have copy and pasted above- with the picyure of the one from the 11 PD? Don't stress yourself- I 'll try babelfish again. ;)

[Guest]

Hi James,

Try at: http://translation2.paralink.com/ and http://freetranslation.paralink.com/

Not trying to disqualify your effort here, Markus.

Cheers to you two

[Fulix]

Im Fulix from planerFigure above... seems that i can´t log in here... strange.

Cheers

[James Tainton]

I found one with a 2.6cm Panzerbüsche-which I may add to mine. ;) That seems to be a normal 251/6 Ausf. C behind it. This is from Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two by P. Chamberlain and H. Doyle.
http://members.shaw.ca/panzerboy/DML251.6/2516cBWphoto.jpg

anyone know to which unit these belonged?

[sharkmouth]

Thanks James,

I just ordered myself one just for the radios ;)

Regards,
Saúl

[James Tainton]

I have found a few more pics of this obscure vehicle.
this one is from Panzertruppen at War (#7018) by R. Michulec from Concord Publications Company
http://members.shaw.ca/panzerboy/DML251.6/concord2.jpg

this one is from another Concord book, Panzers in the East (2) Decline and Defeat 1943 - 1945 by the same author. There is a colour plate in that book as well but I think you will have to buy the book as we are only allowed on the net to show one pic from each publication because of copyright issues...
http://members.shaw.ca/panzerboy/DML251.6/concord3.jpg

This one is from 4. Panzer-Division on the Eastern Front (1) 1941 - 1943 from Concord (#7025), again authored by Robert Michulec. There is about 6 or seven pics in a series on this particular vehicle.
http://members.shaw.ca/panzerboy/DML251.6/bw2516.jpg

[brummbaer2]

The gist of the German site thread is that they don't think both aerials were commonly used on the same vehicle - at least not very often. One fellow cites auch a 251/6 used by Guderian, and one of the links gives a photo of one, making two in all. The A and B versions of the 251 were more commonly used for these configurations (as in the two mentioned), but C and D versions are known and were photographed. The frame antenna is the standard /6 configuration and was possibly the only one used on the C and D, and the telescoping (onion) antenna was used for the Luftwaffe cooperation /3 version (unclear whether the standard /3 used the frame antenna). There were at least two kinds of star (Stern) antenna used, five prongs earlier and six later. Some posters think the distinction between /6 and /3 was the presence of an Enigma coding machine in the /6 which was used in rear areas while the /3 was used near the front lines.

The links go to two sites that have color photos of WW II German radio equipment, and a great site on the SdKfz 251 with all its verions described and linked to photos and more info - all are in English.

German Radios WW2 (http://www.laud.no/la6nca/radio/german/index.htm)

Army Radio Sales Co. (http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/pages.php?pageurl=/publish/Articles/William_Howard_German/German_Ground_Stations.htm)

Hannomag Sd. Kfz. 251 (http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/pit/3515/251/)

[RC_Hill]

I know that this is kind of an old post and I didn't have time to read all the comments, so.......I have an AFV club Ausf C... I want to try to back date it to a "B"...I was thinking that maybe, I could canabilize some stuff from like a 250 to see if that works, but I don't really want to do that....is there a set from anyone to do a back date of a C to a B? Also, that frame looks nifty...Is there something out there that's like in an upgrade set?
Thanks

[Parovoz]

Hello!
it`s been time from last post, but I hope it`s not finished:)?
I`m interested about subject, because I do 251/3 myself. And reading all threads, still have questions.

[James Tainton]

This one is still in the box -waiting for more time to get it done. Ask your questions in any case it may be an enlightening experience for both of us.

[Patbernier]

Here's another picture of this vehicle.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/patbernier/untitled.jpg?t=1222178655

Pat

[Parovoz]

Hi!
Thanks for the picture
So, like I mentioned, I´m currently working on Sdkfz 251/3 Àusf.B. It`s a Zvezda kit in Revell box. I know that it has its errors, but I built it OOB...basically. Maybe second kit get more attention. And when I end up to radio rack , part that I like most, there very limited amount of information about how radios wired in rack. I mean power cable, interconnections, microphones, Morse key. And the pearl - Enigma mashine:) if the 251/3 had it...
And when fitting rack to the halftrack, radios are higher than hull. Is that normal or its a exeption?
I looked at links in this thread, but ..there allways but, didnt see many pics or info...