StuG III Aller Arten - Group Build

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Since there is will and courage in people to join the project "Sturmgeschutz III all versions" here I open the thread where everybody who is interested can post their build updates

And the members of our Sturmgeschutz Abteilung as follows in alphabetical order:


Name..........................Kit Maker............................................. .................................................. .......Planned StuG
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Barroso Luiz Carlos Pacheco...MB StuG IIIF.............................................. Div." HERMANN GÖRING " Sicily,November,1942
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Bonati Laura.......................Tamiya StuG IIIB.............................................. ....................Sturmartillerie Abteilung 197
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Heikkinen Mikko...................DML StuG IIIG S/K................................................. .................................Finnish Sturmi
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Jonakowski Mateusz.............DML StuG IIIG S/K................................................. .................................................. ..
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KH Ruslan ..........................DML StuG IIIG S/K................................................. .................................................. ..
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Maximov Andrey..................DML StuH 42................................................ .......................Eastern front, Hungary 1945
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Pituch Radek.......................DML StuG IIIF.............................................. ........................................Stalingrad 1942
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Quah Lawrence....................DML StuG IIIC...Stug Abt 189 Eastern Front or the late war C/D "Blucher" in Prague May, 1945
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Rochatka Tomasz.................DML StuG IIIG S/K................................................. .................................Finnish Sturmi
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Steinman John.....................DML StuG IIIG and IIIF/8 kitbash........................................... ......................................
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Sumner Jamie......................DML StuG IIIG.............................................. .................................................. ..........
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Tainton James.....................DML StuG IIIA.............................................. .................................................. ..........
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Zadura Krzysztof..................DML StuG IIIG S/K................................................. .................................................. .



Chris

[Kreighshoer]

Since there is will and courage in people to join the project "Sturmgeschutz III all versions" here I open the thread where everybody who is interested can post their build updates

i am very interested in joining the gb if nobody minds :)

i'd build an StuGIII Ausf. B (tamiya's 35281) since a short barrelled StuG is still missing in my stash ...

one suggestion though: wouldn't it be better if a pa group build was organized like in migs community? open a new group build subcategory where everybody can create an own build thread instead of (over)loading one thread with many builds?

cheers

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Happy that you are willing to join. Welcome on board. And your suggestion is very good.

Gordy,
Would that be possible to create a place for group builds?
If you could create it for us that would be great.

Chris

[Sticky]

I'm in. StuG F/8. Kit bash - DML new smart Kit G with the old F/8. Unit yet to be determined.

[Kreighshoer]

most cool being on board of a group build! :thumb:

after some research i decided to do a StuG of "Sturmartillerie Abteilung 197" (just because of the unit insignia ... unfortunately '232' was established too late (but i still have a f/8 built and ready that i can repaint :D for '232'))

a very good resource for sturmartillerie can be found here: Die Sturmartillerie (http://www.die-sturmartillerie.com/wappen.htm) - unfortunately in german only ...

[jimmy66]

i'm building this one amongst other projects so if any one has any more info on this worn out beast ,dont be shy.......

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/_sharon/14wwokg1xj8.jpg

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Welcome Jamie
Guess its a ausf.G and you will be using DML Smart Kit ? You are already at the list. Cool damage this one has.

Thank you very much for link Laura. Will go through it and luckily Deutsch should not be much of a problem here. :)

Wrote to Gordy about new space for group builds. When I get answer from him will let you all know where we are.

Think if we have that space we can make a thread with useful photos for our project and for future needs. I have some photos that I could share here for reference.

Chris

[DOJO]

I can try to join as I got DML smart kit. But I cant promise as work keeps me very busy this day so I can start building but I do not know when i will be bale to finish 8-/

[Gopher]

I'm in!
Stug III Ausf.C,7,5cm Stuk 40 L/48. 1945 Eastern front, Baltics, N 123. Zvezda/Dragon + LionRoar PE + Friul
But it'll be a very slow build.

http://club-tm.ru/Dragon/Catalog/9035.jpg

[James Tainton]

Hmmm maybe I should do a Stug III Ausf. A.
http://www.militaryhobbies.ca/custom/productzoom/dml9031.jpg

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Good to have you on board Ruslan, Andrey and James.
Seems we have most of StuG III versions now.
We look forward to some StuHs as well.

Chris

[MikkoH]

I could also join in with Dragons smartie ausf.G to make it finnish sturmi. If rest of the family gives me time to build.:D

[Gopher]

Good to have you on board Ruslan, Andrey and James.
Seems we have most of StuG III versions now.
We look forward to some StuHs as well.

Chris

I'm thinking of parallel build of Dragon StuH 42....
Eastern front, Ukraine 1944, 3 tone camo with winterwash.

http://jshobbies.net/catalog/images/DRA9058.jpg

Camo scheme:

http://www.chamtec.com/materials/stuh42gph2.jpg

Guys, if you have any ideas of interesting and unusual camo schemes (or photos) from Eastern front - don't be shy - post them here. Thanks in advice!

[lquah]

I could also join in with Dragons smartie ausf.G to make it finnish sturmi. If rest of the family gives me time to build.:D

Mikko, we've talk about that Finnish Stug for close to two years now. So let's see it built..:D :)

Lawrence

[MikkoH]

Mikko, we've talk about that Finnish Stug for close to two years now. So let's see it built..:D :)

Lawrence

Does time go that fast?:D :O Yeah I know we have talked about it and you even send me those fenders to use on tamiyas stug. Btw I tought to use em on that ancient dml late ausf.G to make sturmi that came summer 44. But for early sturmi dragons smartie is best. I also have friul tracks for that.

It's a small step for mankind but huge leap to me but I'm going to take that.:D :)

[RickLawler]

I could also join in with Dragons smartie ausf.G to make it finnish sturmi. If rest of the family gives me time to build.:D

Mikko....Please!!! :)


;)
Rick

[Sticky]

Tell them its important for you to partake!

[James Tainton]

some of you may find this book of interest- I just ordered one.
http://www.amazon.ca/Modelling-Sturmgesch%C3%BCtz-III-Gary-Edmundson/dp/1841769495/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200980239&sr=1-3

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

some of you may find this book of interest- I just ordered one.
http://www.amazon.ca/Modelling-Sturmgesch%C3%BCtz-III-Gary-Edmundson/dp/1841769495/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200980239&sr=1-3

Thank you for useful hint James.

Good news folks ! I got answer from Gordy earlier today. He will make new Group Build category for us :) He is a very friendly admin.

When we have it we can start a thread with pictures of Stugs in it, apart from build threads and one general thread about the project, coool.


Chris

[Gopher]

Krzysztof, I really don't know what to do first - StuH 42 or StuG III C/D. There's a lot of pe work with StuG III C/D and I'm going to buy Hold and Fold and soldering machine before I'll start doing it. So I think StuH 42 OOTB will be first.
Could you change it in the list?

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Krzysztof, I really don't know what to do first - StuH 42 or StuG III C/D. There's a lot of pe work with StuG III C/D and I'm going to buy Hold and Fold and soldering machine before I'll start doing it. So I think StuH 42 OOTB will be first.
Could you change it in the list?

You asked for it, you got it. :)

Chris

[DOJO]

Maybe I'm missing something but i didn't see the deadline date if there's one?
As some people are bad with finishing models, i wonder how will this GB will go as there will be people that won't be able to work fast.

If some one got Concord's "Panzer-Division in Russia" #7047 on the page 40 is a stug that i'm thinking on doing.

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Maybe I'm missing something but i didn't see the deadline date if there's one?
As some people are bad with finishing models, i wonder how will this GB will go as there will be people that won't be able to work fast.


That would be the D-Day June 6th Ruslan. If the project will go well and there will be a need we always can move it forward. But for the moment its the D-Day. Hope this is okay?

By the way, I have just found some nice reference pictures from StuG III in Cartahena. Belive its the Ausf.G?
Good quality in nice big resolution. Here they start and few pages forward of them:

http://news.webshots.com/album/434488856ORczRq?start=72

and here another one

http://news.webshots.com/album/547028956csLDvp



Hope you find them usefull.

Chris

[Radek Pituch]

Hi
I've decided to go with a StuG III F. I will make it as a vehicle from one of the Abteilungs fighting in Stalingrad (StuG Abt. 244 or 245, doesn't really matter to me, 'cos they were both involved in the fighting).
But here's my question concerning this project. Does anybody know if a painting scheme of panzer gray with dark yellow wavy lines over it would be appropriate? I know that Grossdeutschland had Stugs painted in that kind of pattern at this time. Can anybody provide some information?
I'll make a dio for it as well :) as usually.

Radek

[Sticky]

Hi
I've decided to go with a StuG III F. I will make it as a vehicle from one of the Abteilungs fighting in Stalingrad (StuG Abt. 244 or 245, doesn't really matter to me, 'cos they were both involved in the fighting).
But here's my question concerning this project. Does anybody know if a painting scheme of panzer gray with dark yellow wavy lines over it would be appropriate? I know that Grossdeutschland had Stugs painted in that kind of pattern at this time. Can anybody provide some information?
I'll make a dio for it as well :) as usually.

Radek

Hmm Not sure. I do know there were Dark Yellow StuG F at Stalingrad, and Stug F in the scheme you noted in the Crimea with the StuG Abt that became Schwere Panzerjager Abt 653, but most of them were stubby stuggies, most of the pics of their F's where in winter white wash.

Not helpful, I know, but a step in the right direction?

[lquah]

Radek

How about a Stug IIIF from Stug Abt 197. Stug Abt 197 was the precursor to s.Pz.Jg.Abt 653.

There are a number of photos of a whitewashed (with upainted brown/black barrel) Stug IIIF (Fahrgestall no 91284 - if I remember correctly) in Trojca's book of the same name.

Lawrence

[Radek Pituch]

Hello
Thanks guys. Your right John that it's a step in the right direction.
Lawrence I want to make a StuG of that kind in Stalingrad because I have a quite nice idea about the setup of the scene. I wanted to paint my StuG in an interesting scheme and the pz.gray./dark yellow is the very best for a StuG III F from 1942 I think. I want this scene to be in september/october so without snow. Rather in a scorched and dusty industrial terrain.
Radek

UPDATE:
Look what I have found:
http://www.die-sturmartillerie.com/seite1.htm
Unit data, markings, photos etc.

[Tomasz Rochatka]

Hello!
I think that the group build is great idea! I would like to join it with the StuG III G (Dragons smart kit)
I am going to build one of the Finnish StuGs ;)
Regards,
Tomek

[MikkoH]

Hello!
I think that the group build is great idea! I would like to join it with the StuG III G (Dragons smart kit)
I am going to build one of the Finnish StuGs ;)
Regards,
Tomek

Nice! I'm planning to do Ps. 531-6 with logs but without concrete, i.e. early july livery.

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Hello!
I think that the group build is great idea! I would like to join it with the StuG III G (Dragons smart kit)
I am going to build one of the Finnish StuGs ;)
Regards,
Tomek

Tomek you are on tha list. Cool that you want to work on the project.

By the way here are some new pictures of StuGs from e-bay:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/thread/1201035585/ebay-+many+pictures...

Chris

[Gopher]

In my last post I've made a mistake - camo scheme I've posted belongs to StuH from Ukraine, 1944.

Guys, if you have any interesting or unusual StuH camo schemes (or photos) from Eastern front - don't be shy - post them here (if Krzysztof don't have anything against it). Thanks in advice!

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

In my last post I've made a mistake - camo scheme I've posted belongs to StuH from Ukraine, 1944.

Guys, if you have any interesting or unusual StuH camo schemes (or photos) from Eastern front - don't be shy - post them here (if Krzysztof don't have anything against it). Thanks in advice!

Come on, its a group build thread. Everybody is most welcome to post anything regarding our project here. :) Hopefully we will have that new space that Gordy promissed where we can set a separate thread with photos and reference as well. I have gone through HDD and I am sure I'll find some nice ones to show for our project.

Chris

[lupanzer]

Dear Chris.

I intend to join this Group Build.I´ll do a Stug III F8 converted from an old Stug III F from MB Models a multi-material kit...a rarity of the early 90´s;)

Can you tell me when this one will start ?...

...and how many time we´ll have to finish our works?

Thanks!

Sincerely!

Luiz.

[lupanzer]

...in time...I´m going to make a F8 from the Division " HERMANN GÖRING " that was operated in Sicily,November,1942...

Cheers!

Luiz.

[lquah]

Yeah...bring on the Stugs!!!

LQ

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Can you tell me when this one will start ?...

...and how many time we´ll have to finish our works?


Hello Luiz
Welcome to the StuG project. You can start working now or whenever you will have time but the deadline for the moment is set for D-Day 6th June.

Look forward to your build updates. We are waiting now for a new space here at PA for Group Projects and hopefully we will see new ones open soon.

Chris

[DOJO]

Got a bad news....
I might be able to make it and might have to leave the group build as dealing with some problems at the moment so I'm having a hard time finishing the tower project.
sorry 8-/

[Mateusz Jonakowski]

Hello again :)

I've managed to get through references earlier today, and unfortunately I didn't find any interesting photos of an early Ausf.G. Of course I can follow DML's painting schemes, but I don't trust them at all...
That's why I ask for help - maybe one of you have the photos of early StuGs III G, in the two-tone camouflage scheme (Dunkelgelb + Olivegrün)? I'm especially interested in the Großdeutschland's StuGs, as well as in ones from the II.SS-Panzerkorps.

I would appreciate any help :)

Regards,
Mateusz

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Got a bad news....
I might be able to make it and might have to leave the group build as dealing with some problems at the moment so I'm having a hard time finishing the tower project.
sorry 8-/

Hope you will deal with problems and that you will be able to stay with project. Please let me know if you will be 100 % sure that you want to leave.
I hope you stay with StuG.

I have a question regarding tracks. Which Modelkasten track set would be most apriopriate for the StuG IIIG Early version from DML Smart Kit?
Guess that would be maybe SK-18 or SK-23 or maybe SK-24???

I have done some progress with the kit. Rear deck is 98% done and just started interrior.

Chris

PS LQ ;):D;)

[MikkoH]

Hi Chris!

Both hollow and solid guideteeth tracks were used at early stug III ausf.g. So SK-18 and SK-23 both goes. SK-24 I have seen used at ausf.B model sturm. Hore this helps.

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Some news

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/newkitnews/part.htm

And from Bison Decals.

35066 German Tanks in Italy #1 - 1943-44. 2008
Pz III J and M, Pz IV G and H, Tiger I, StuG III G, Semovente 75/18, Marder II and Marder III H.


35067 StuG III Ausf G. 2008


35068 StuG III Ausf G Saukopf. 2008

Hope at least one of these sets will see daylight before project ends.

Yeah baby !

Chris

[Kreighshoer]

Guys, if you have any interesting or unusual StuH camo schemes (or photos) from Eastern front - don't be shy - post them here

here's some picasso (or LSD) inspired camo i like a lot:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/71/4528371/1280_3963646534316130.jpg
(discussion purpose only! taken from: culver, bruce and bill murphy: panzer colors - camouflage of the german panzer forces 1939-1945. - carrollton (texas): squadron/signal publications, 1978)

cheers

[Gopher]

Looks great, but sadly it's not StuH :(.
It'll be great if someone who will do DML StuG III G SK make this baby.

[Kreighshoer]

Looks great, but sadly it's not StuH :(.
It'll be great if someone who will do DML StuG III G SK make this baby.

sure it's no StuH in the reference but this is just one vehicle out of thousands and the pix of the StuH's aren't covering all the vehicles also ... so i thought it was of not much importance if it was a StuGIIIG or not ... you see my point?

i really would be glad if someone would do that crazy camo :D (i won't do it for sure!)

btw.: ordered yesterday afternoon and on shipment today - sheesh the boys at the onlineshop are really fast :eek: (tomorrow or on monday i have my stuff - in time for the kickoff! ... that's timing! :D )

cheers

[DOJO]

Going to have to leave the group build, as much as I would have liked to stay and do the build because I find in very interesting.
Not having much time to finish the tower with flak, won't gave time for a stug and won't like to start an other project before finishing the tower.

[Gopher]

sure it's no StuH in the reference but this is just one vehicle out of thousands and the pix of the StuH's aren't covering all the vehicles also ... so i thought it was of not much importance if it was a StuGIIIG or not ... you see my point?



of course ;)

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Hello team,
Here are scans of the instructions and PE frets from new Part sets. First time I scanned PE LOL ;)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/me109krisz/StuG%20III%20G/Part1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/me109krisz/StuG%20III%20G/Part2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/me109krisz/StuG%20III%20G/Part6.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/me109krisz/StuG%20III%20G/Part3.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/me109krisz/StuG%20III%20G/Part4.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/me109krisz/StuG%20III%20G/Part5.jpg

Just one more thing remains here ... our new group build space, weekend is over and ..... :confused:


Chris

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Nearly forgotten to say that I have chosen the wehicle on which I am gonna focus here.

Here it is:

The picture comes from Achtung Panzer No.5 Sturmgeschuetz III, Stug.IV & SIG. 33, Page 49. Its published here for discussion purposes only.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/me109krisz/StuG%20III%20G/StuG1024.jpg

----- StuG III Ausf.G #1024 III. Abteilung, Pz.Regiment 2, 16. Pz.Division -----

Picture taken near Piazza del Popolo, Rome, Italy arnd. Nov 1943

Excellent book it is. Must have I think when working at StuGs. Arrived here on Friday as usual from R10.

I just wonder if there are any other pictures of this StuG or its the only one.

By the way I should have decals for it shortly. Very big thank you to Manuel here :):):)

Chris

[Sticky]

Chris I cannot remember where, but there is another couple pics in that series from the other side. If I find them I will let you know.

[DOJO]

Just to be clear, PART's new p-e set is for the Dragon's stug G, smart kit?

[sharkmouth]

Hi Ruslan,

It looks like it as I have all the PART sets for the older kits and none came with an interior (the kits nor the PE sets)

Regards,

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Just to be clear, PART's new p-e set is for the Dragon's stug G, smart kit?

Ruslan,
Yes its designed for DML StuG III G Smart Kit and obviously for other DML kits based on it like Georg Bose or the Cyber-Hobby one with deep wanding muffler.
There are 4 sets in total as far as I know. The exterrior one is missing here and also there is a fender set. They just came out to the market recently.

John,
That is very good news. Hope you will be able to find these pictures :)
For a moment I am not sure whether it had the additional armor bolted or welded. Some other angle pictures might help here. I think i see some bolts in front of acces hatches, but I am not really sure if its just me or they are really there.

Chris

[Kreighshoer]

Just one more thing remains here ... our new group build space, weekend is over and ..... :confused:

i just returned and want to friendly ask the very same question big kahuna ... where is the new section?

there was a nice parcel waiting for me with my new stuff and the german tamiya distributor did it again :mad: ... they cut away all StuGAbt 192 insignias just because they are skulls - not that i wanted to build a vehicle of that particular Abt. but i really hate it when i feel patronised like that and am deprived of my free decision! :mad: :mad::mad: :yell: :yell: :yell: (a skull itself isn't forbidden anyway and this is just pathetic and ridiculous! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrgh!)

whatever .... oooooooooooooooohm ... will wait for the new section with patience

cheers

[sharkmouth]

.. they cut away all StuGAbt 192 insignias just because they are skulls - not that i wanted to build a vehicle of that particular Abt. but ...

Hi Laura,

IF you decide to build a vehicle of that unit, send me an e-mail and I will send you some decals. ;)

Regards,

[DOJO]

Thanks!!
I wanted to be clean on it as PART didn't list which stug it's for. As I also was thinking that it might be a generic set for the AM interior.

[James Tainton]

I just got the Aber fenders and wheel rings for my Stug A. Now should I send away for the Fruilmodel Sprocket wheels or move some bolts to make the kit's more accurate.

[Kreighshoer]

IF you decide to build a vehicle of that unit, send me an e-mail and I will send you some decals. ;)

thanx saul :thumb:

that's very kind of you and IF i will ever build a StuG of that abt i will come back to your offer! :)

this is the stuff for my gb contribution:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/71/4528371/1280_6530643861633364.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/71/4528371/1280_3165306536316334.jpg

the uniforms will give me the opportunity for a wild mix of black uniforms, field grey ones, mixed uniforms including different collar tabs - /me is looking forward to that paintjob ... and the best thing is that as i will use only two of the set for the StuG III B i have two left for my second built model after reentering this hobby, the dml StuG III F/8 (i will repaint that one for the GB)

[MikkoH]

there was a nice parcel waiting for me with my new stuff and the german tamiya distributor did it again :mad: ... they cut away all StuGAbt 192 insignias just because they are skulls - not that i wanted to build a vehicle of that particular Abt. but i really hate it when i feel patronised like that and am deprived of my free decision! :mad: :mad::mad: :yell: :yell: :yell: (a skull itself isn't forbidden anyway and this is just pathetic and ridiculous! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrgh!)


cheers

Thanks gods that ain't happening in finland. I want to build my B as a 192 abt(actually started already:D) and I would have had to kill somebody if same thing has happened here.;)

Shadow of the near history is just too long in germany. In my opinion river has flowed under the bridge enough to let go. Not to forget but to forgive. Just my two cents.

[AfRiKaKoRpS]

Should have said that earlier but better late than never

For everybody who is interested in prticipating or already joined our group build, we have a new space for project StuG set by our friendly admin Gordy.

Here it is:

http://www.planetarmor.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=177

Chris