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James Tainton
07-25-2004, 08:42 PM
Okay, since the Bison is on hold for the moment I thought I would build up the new Panzer I/B offered by Dragon. This kit is light years ahead in engineering and detail when compared to the lame Alan offering.

The contents of the box upon opening,
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/DMLPanzerIboxcontents.jpg
the sprues
Sprue "A"
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/sprueA.jpg
Sprues "B","D","E"
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/sprueBED.jpg
Sprue "C"- there are two of these
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/sprueCX2.jpg
Sprue"F"
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/sprueF.jpg
The Hull
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/hull.jpg

James Tainton
07-25-2004, 08:43 PM
There is also a figure set from an earlier Dragon release included. (#6029)
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/figuresprue.jpg
there is a metal fret for the headphones
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/earphone.jpg
There is a sprue of clear lenses as well- which is a new featuyre for an armour kit.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/lenses.jpg
There is a photo-etch set from LionRoar- another nice touch!
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/lionroar.jpg
a nice decal sheet
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/decals.jpg
The instructions are in the old line drawing format- I like it better than the photo style they had been using of late.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/instructions.jpg

James Tainton
07-25-2004, 08:58 PM
This is one little beauty of a kit- one of the nicest I've ever seen! It is truely a good time to be an armour modeller. I'd say this kit is better in some ways than the Tristar version- for one thing it's almost half the price! I will probably build about ten of these little guys!

some of the detail can be seen in these shots
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/BisonI/panzericloseupcuside.jpg
return rollers
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/BisonI/pzireturnrollers.jpg
side of the hull
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/pzicloseupside.jpg
the top fender is a bit thick and not to scale, if one needed to you could sand it down.

James Tainton
07-25-2004, 09:13 PM
The wheels and other suspension parts measure up favourably to scale drawings
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/sizing.jpg

here is the main suspension part breakdown
as you can see -very nice and the parts really fit together well.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/wheels.jpg

James Tainton
07-25-2004, 09:48 PM
the road wheels look pretty good compared to photo of real one.http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/roadwheel.jpg

James Tainton
07-25-2004, 10:50 PM
The drive wheel has a slight imperfection on the center plate- due to the injection molding process no doubt- I can live with this. The bolt detail is rather nice.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/drivewheel.jpg
The idler is clean of flash and crisp in detail. It is flawed in that there is a outer rim missing, (arrow) and the spokes appear a slight bit thick- again not too noticable- there is nice bolt detail but it appears they may be a bit small. The center hub maybe needs to be a little more "cone" like?
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/idler.jpg

Leo Lee
07-25-2004, 11:40 PM
Hi, Jamie,

You may want to postpone this project as well. May be you should wait for the coming Lionroar PE set for this one, which include fenders, a whole rear upper hull, (the DML one is actually need some work to put together), and a lot of other goodies. ;-)

Cheers

Leo

Tuna
07-26-2004, 07:18 AM
Nice Pics James, thanks for sharing.. can't wait to see the in prog photos!

:)

James Tainton
07-26-2004, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Leo Lee@Jul 25 2004, 11:40 PM
Hi, Jamie,

You may want to postpone this project as well. May be you should wait for the coming Lionroar PE set for this one, which include fenders, a whole rear upper hull, (the DML one is actually need some work to put together), and a lot of other goodies. ;-)

Cheers

Leo
Hi Leo- thanks for the info but I will just build this OOTB for the most part- the next one may get tricked out.

Thanks Tuna for your comments! ;)

James Tainton
07-26-2004, 11:44 PM
Moving onto the front coil spring- here is a comparison photo montage of the kits offering and the real deal.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/spring2.jpg

James Tainton
07-26-2004, 11:58 PM
here the spring coil, front axle piece and shock absorber have been installed
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/springinstalled.jpg

James Tainton
07-27-2004, 12:34 AM
Here you can see I have added the rear axle holder and the support bar of a later type of Panzer I/B. This was an option provided by the kit
Weld seams could be added here were the bumpy things join the hull.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/backend.jpg

James Tainton
07-27-2004, 12:36 AM
here you can see the major components that make up the superstructure and the rear engine cover.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/citadepartsl.jpg

James Tainton
07-27-2004, 01:04 AM
the front portion all together- care must be taken when lining up and gluing parts!
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/citadel.jpg

James Tainton
07-27-2004, 11:55 PM
Okay now a closer look at the engine cover parts;
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/engingcoverparts.jpg
Here is a pic showing the area that this shell glues to.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/backview.jpg
here the shell is in place,
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/shellinplace.jpg
Before you add the top plate to the shell you must remember to glue the little PE screen provided from Lion roar to the egine intake grate on the back/right. (back right from the driver's P.O.V.)
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/PE.jpg

James Tainton
07-28-2004, 12:24 AM
Here a side piece of the back armour is added,
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/sidebitglued.jpg
here is a side shot with all the platres in place. One odd thing was there was no indication of two main parts (A20, A21) that make up the upper ventilation step on the back of the upper body.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/sidearmour.jpg
from the front
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/front.jpg
and the right side. and back end
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/sideright.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/back.jpg
the screen that was glued on up-close

James Tainton
07-28-2004, 01:06 AM
a better look of the rear ventlation area
parts A20 and A21-not in instruction sheet?
grille is a bit thick when compared to photos of the real item.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/ventilator.jpg

Tuna
07-28-2004, 06:57 AM
Looks like a very nice kit James... with some minor clean up work.. a vacation after the Bison!

James Tainton
07-28-2004, 08:03 AM
Hey Tuna- yes this kit is not perfect but it is pretty nice but so far it seems to go together easily(which will be good for the younger crowd)- I don't really care for the seperate plate idea as it may cause problems for unlucky, less experienced, or careless builders.
It also adds to the thickness of the armour plate which is too thick to be in scale should you desire to show the engine doors open or something. This is clear in the thickness of the fenders as well. Too thick- but you could sand them down the inside with a file carefully to get closer to scale thickness.
One correction I must make in my writings so far is this bit about parts A 20 and A 21. They are mentioned in the instructions but the confusion occured because in Step 7.They have the two parts mounted but in Step 8. is where the parts are pointed out and they aren't in place yet , as in Step 7.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/parts.jpg ;)

James Tainton
07-28-2004, 08:32 AM
here you can see the right side back armour piece
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/sideplarerightinplace.jpg

James Tainton
07-29-2004, 12:39 AM
There are two options for the back plate- one for an early one and one for a later one. I believe I chose the early one (I'll have to double check and I have so little time these days) that allows the use of a light. I do plan to add the Nebelkerzenabwufvorrichtung, (smoke gernade rack) so I'll have to modify this one as its the E1 part that is meant for that one. It must be understood that due to limited time to research a specific vehicle with this build - in the end all details may not be as representitive of a actual vehicle - but next time for sure ;)
I will try to keep it somewhat actual based. I Plan to use a later convoy light thus the choice of part D4
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/backplate.jpg

James Tainton
07-29-2004, 10:56 PM
here are the main turret parts, including a rudimentary seat for a fiure, cleaned up and ready to be assembled.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/turretparts.jpg

James Tainton
07-29-2004, 11:16 PM
Here are a couple of shots showing the main shell part that makes up the turret. You can see that the vision cover plates come molded in place - this simplifys things but will limit options should you wish to have the hatches shown open! I would have made them like the superstructure vision plates- seperate items. The molding is crips and detail is okay.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/mainturretshell.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/mainturretshellback.jpg

Leo Lee
07-29-2004, 11:23 PM
Hey, Jamie,

Here they say it must be a conspiracy of DML and Dragon Roar. That rear hull thingy and thick fender will tempt you to buy the Lionroar PE!

There are always pros and cons. The side panels design is intended to capture the weld bead. But for you and me I think we can do it in our own way anyhow. But for someone new into modeling, they may not align the panels right, and after some filling and sanding, they may got those beads erased.

James Tainton
07-29-2004, 11:23 PM
the turret top hatch is nice except for an unfortunate recessed disk of a knock-out mark on the inside face- in a place that is difficult to scrap or sand... :angry:
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/hatch.jpg
the side access hatches have this problem as well...
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/sidehatches.jpg

Stuke Sowle
07-31-2004, 12:41 PM
James,

I don't do it near enough, but I'd like to give you a big "thank you" for all the build threads that you are sharing with us. They are extremely useful for tips and tricks as well as comprehensive reviews of new or old products.

Please keep up the great work!

Stuke

James Tainton
07-31-2004, 07:31 PM
Thanks for the response , sometimes I feel sooo alone... :(

:lol:

Stuke Sowle
08-01-2004, 01:48 AM
Trust me, your not! :)

Any ideas on how you are going to tackle this kit's tracks? I love the indy links, but the painting can be such a challenge when they are assembled and on the model. :angry:

James Tainton
08-01-2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Stuke Sowle@Aug 1 2004, 01:48 AM
Trust me, your not! :)

Any ideas on how you are going to tackle this kit's tracks? I love the indy links, but the painting can be such a challenge when they are assembled and on the model. :angry:

The tracks - I have not had any problem with DML tracks before (panther,panzer IV) so I anticapate no problems with the fit or assembly of these Panzer I ones. I always assemble and paint my tracks seperately from the main chassis and road wheels. Thus as you can see in the build's progress shots that I have not added the wheels yet- they will be painted and weathered seperately from the main body -just to be sure of complete and authentic coverage. Then the body will be painted and aged. The next step will be to add the painted road wheels and then the painted tracks. Then after all subassemblies are together I will tweak the whole to bring it all to the same level of dirt dust ect.
I am going to the beach today so I will be taking the track sprues with me as this is a fairly monotonous process- I could do more up dates to the main build but i'm not going to stay inside and work at the compy on such a beautiful day!!! :lol:
I update later, Tshuss!

Tuna
08-01-2004, 03:55 PM
Hi James.. how about trying some 'light' spackle to fill the knock out pin marks.. a guy in my club suggested it to me.. and it seems like a good fix!

James Tainton
08-01-2004, 09:11 PM
I will be having my hatches closed (except the turret one.) Small puched out circles of plastic work good too- or just scraping the plastic back to make it disappear works sometimes too.

James Tainton
08-02-2004, 01:11 AM
Here you can see the gaps filled with Mr. Surfacer and sanded smooth- the applica armour that was added to the side of the turret to protect the ammo inside the superstructure is glued in place.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/ammoarmour.jpg

the turret went together in 4 easy steps ....
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/turret.jpg

James Tainton
08-02-2004, 01:24 AM
The side hatch doors are added,
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/overallshot1.jpg
muffler the main halves glued together and the armour cover in the back,
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/muffler.jpg

Stuke Sowle
08-02-2004, 05:59 PM
Looking good!!

So as far as the tracks are concerned do you glue them together in subassemblies or do something similiar to this?:

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=3281&img=P1010015.JPG

I find that this was the easiest way to paint, but sometimes this can be hard to accomplish!!

James Tainton
08-02-2004, 06:59 PM
that is a subassembly, right- and that is what I'll be doing my tracks - BTW what are those tracks for?
And a picture of the turret in place on the hull.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/turretonhull.jpg

Stuke Sowle
08-02-2004, 07:30 PM
It's the DML ZSU-23-4. It's the first time I was able to get the entire run of tracks glued together then off the model. Prior to this I always fully assembled the model with the tracks and painted from there.

I really like the looks of this Dragon kit. I'll have to keep it in mind if I ever get through my 50+ kits. :)

James Tainton
08-02-2004, 09:37 PM
The kit comes with two versions of vision port covers- an early one and a later type. The later ones with the bolts seem to be the more commonly ones used so that was my choice.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/correction.jpg

The change in design had to do with the smooth type from Panzer I/A's having problems with the fasteners causing problems when hit with bullets- so they changed to a conical headed exterior bolt

http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/hatcheson.jpg

a close up...
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/hatchesoncloseup.jpg

James Tainton
08-02-2004, 09:44 PM
Cool- I'd like to see the finished product-any pics?
Here is a shot showing the ventilation tube installed to remove the blinding smoke created by the driving brakes inside the driver's area.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/venttube.jpg
here you can see I've drilled out the end of the tube and glued the superstructure lifting hooks in place. I did sand off and remove the raised lines meant for placement guides-
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/hole.jpg ;)

James Tainton
08-02-2004, 10:03 PM
The kit provided fenders are good enough for an OOTB build but I had an extra few bits from a Panzer I/B PE fret - and the rear fenders were part of those so I used them ...
I've not done these before and there was some learnin' involved but they turned out okay :)
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/fender1.jpg

James Tainton
08-02-2004, 10:11 PM
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/fender2.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/fenderunder.jpg

James Tainton
08-02-2004, 10:18 PM
as a side issue- I spent the day yesterday at the beach and while ther in six hours I managed to detach and clean up a little more than two thirds of the single link treads that come with the kit-
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/tracks.jpg
there is a slight seam mark on these but not too bad.
there are about five attachement points for each shoe- the ModelKasten links are nicer.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/trackonsprue.jpg

James Tainton
08-02-2004, 11:54 PM
Here are some pics of the Aber fender build up on the right hand side- All parts are soldered together.
Sorry for the quality of these shots as thety were taken last night under artificial light.

first the general layout of the parts -with working hinges by golly!
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender1.jpg
the top side of the main plate.
To this amost of the other parts are attached- starting with one part of the hinges.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender3.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender4.jpg

next using a scribing tool from my etching days I impressed some rivets into `the metal using the guides un the under side.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender5.jpg

Stuke Sowle
08-02-2004, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by panzerfaust@Aug 2 2004, 09:44 PM
Cool- I'd like to see the finished product-any pics?

I put some shots of the Shilka in my workbench folder. Take a look.

Cool work with the fenders. They really add another dimension to the model. I've always like to try my hand at soldering the parts together, but just haven't had the time to learn that art.

James Tainton
08-03-2004, 12:36 AM
more progress shots of the Aber fender
the side bits have been added as a bigger inside bit waits in the background
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender6.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender7.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender8.jpg

James Tainton
08-03-2004, 12:42 AM
inside interior bit
unfolded
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender9.jpg
folded
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender10.jpg

jimf
08-04-2004, 02:06 PM
I came to this topic on a link from Armorama and must say I have really enjoyed this thread... so much so that I have gone back and read your previous efforts. Your commentary and critiques added to your modelling skills makes this as good as attending a master class, and a very entertaining and informative one at that. Thank you! ;)

James Tainton
08-04-2004, 10:28 PM
thanks Jim for the kind words.... :)

James Tainton
08-05-2004, 12:36 AM
these are the tiny hinges that hold the rear fender part to the side fender,
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender12.jpg
and the completed fender...
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aberfender13.jpg

James Tainton
08-05-2004, 12:52 AM
here is the back end ready to be mated to the right rear fender...
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aber14.jpg
and the view from behind with both fenders in place...
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/aber15.JPG


the fit of these Aber fender bits to the DML plastic kit was pretty ok but not perfect, as the DML fenders maybe thinner by a micron or two ;)
I'll try to take some pics of the kits fenders to show you those...

James Tainton
08-05-2004, 01:26 AM
as a diversion here are some pics of the on vehicle tools that come with the kit...

http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/tools1.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/tools3.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/tools4.jpg

Tuna
08-05-2004, 07:22 AM
I agree with Jimf.. James is a Modeling Masterclass! ;)

Even if you don't attempt builds as extravagantas his.. watching them in progress inspires you to try more on your own!!.. hmmm I just got some Tix Solder and Flux from Micromark.. I may be trying a new way of working with etch on the next kit! ;)

Keep these BLOGS coming James.. they inspire us to BUILD!

James Tainton
08-05-2004, 08:40 AM
Thanks Tuna :) (I am far from a "Master")
Here I have added the lights and machine guns
The width indicator lights on either side of the front fenders appear tooo large when compared to fotos. These are often mistaken for headlights.
The back hatches are all in place.
The machine gun detail is okay.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/widthindicatorlights1.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/Untitled-2.jpg

James Tainton
08-05-2004, 11:25 PM
I want to use the left over Aber parts to make a better jack block (Windenklotz)
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/block1.jpg
here it is sanded down to the same dimensions as the DML block
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/block2.jpg
Here the balsam block has recieved the two reinforcing straps from the Aber set and the handle.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/block4.jpg
as well the mountings are in place on the fender. The later type securing strap is made up of two bits that come together with a hinge.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/blockstrap.jpg

James Tainton
08-05-2004, 11:35 PM
here it is in place, (BTW, I had to adjust the size of the block as it was too thick)
This is not glued in until after all the painting is done.
http://members.shaw.ca/artisticsolutions/PanzerIB/block5.JPG

Tuna
08-06-2004, 07:36 AM
Gonna have to get me some balsa wood.. that looks great!.. I've seen that on the aber instructions but was too Lazy/Chicken to attempt it.. but now after seeing the finished results.. I may have go to the craft store and get me some!

Dan
08-08-2004, 09:39 PM
I wonder if the VP interior will fit OK? ;)

KingTiger
08-08-2004, 09:51 PM
Nice work, looking forward to the finished model. :thumb:

KingTiger

James Tainton
08-09-2004, 02:21 AM
VP sucks ;)

Now I move on to the forward left fender tool stowage- the axe and shovel- I will be using the Aber stuff to detail this a bit... ;)
first the axe cover is folded up and check fitted.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/axe1.jpg
the shovel shield is made up of four parts and the shovel blade is beside this
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/shovel1.jpg

James Tainton
08-09-2004, 02:51 AM
the shovel handle is replace with a thinned down tooth pick
It is placed in a Dremel tool and sand paper is used to thin diameter.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/shovel2.jpg

James Tainton
08-09-2004, 10:56 AM
The shovel blade cover from under and the toothpick glued in place,,
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/shovel4.jpg
the DML shovel compared to the one I've made up-does any one have any good shots of the shovel in real life. (and the other tools for that matter)
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/shovel3.jpg

here is a shot showing the shovel blade cover and the first of the Aber tool clasps in place,
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/shovel6.jpg

and here is a sequence of photos showing the process...
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/shovel5.jpg

James Tainton
08-10-2004, 10:39 PM
here are those shots of the rear mud flap I promised...
The two seperate parts
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/rearmudflap1.jpg
the parts glued together...
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/mudflap.jpg

here you can see the comparison of the two types-I believe the Aber ones are the early type and may be a tiny bit large for the DML Pz. I. The DML are the later type? I'm not sure but either the DML is too narrow or the Aber is too wide? close enough anyhoo...
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/mudflap2.jpg
I may try the new Lion Roar PE set when it comes out
http://www.lionroar.net/en/products/AFV/LE35036.htm

James Tainton
08-11-2004, 01:12 AM
now moving to th back tools... I made a metal wire "S" hook instead of cleaning off the molded on clasp and "U" braket . (In retrospect I think I might have used this kit provided part and just added a clasp lever on the end of the plastic bump.)
I also cleaned off the molded on stowage details on the crank tool in preparation to using ABER replacement parts. (I think these are a little big for 1/35 but they still add detail...)
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/s-hook.jpg

James Tainton
08-11-2004, 01:20 AM
here the "S" hook is in place (The clasp and hook are black due to me burning off the CA glue that was on it when I repositioned it after thinking I was not happy with its first placement.)

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/shook2.jpg

The kits location holes are filled with sprue glued in with CA glue and trimmed down when dry. The crack tool is in place with one of two clasps in place.

James Tainton
08-12-2004, 12:41 AM
so now the fire extinguisher- used the kit part wit h the raised details removed and aber parts.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/extingusher3.jpg

James Tainton
08-12-2004, 01:10 AM
Now a tentitive placing for this shot...
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/fireextingisher5.jpg

and one showing the beginnings of the jack stowage area. I decided yo use the kits clamp and storage stuff.The larger pry bar is also included. The red arrow points to an Aber part that represents an attachment point for the muffler.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/jack1.jpg

and I also got thr front right smaller pry bar fittings in place...
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/frontprybar.jpg

James Tainton
08-12-2004, 01:16 AM
work on the muffler comprised replacement of plastic exhaust tube with a piece of wire insulation.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/muffler1.jpg
another view
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/muffler2.jpg

James Tainton
08-12-2004, 01:22 AM
here is a pic showing how I tried to improve the idlers by wrapping the outside rim with some Evergreen strip. Not perfect but it helps.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/idlerwheelsfixed.jpg

James Tainton
08-12-2004, 07:54 PM
for the pry bars I looked at some reference and the prybars that come with this kit are pretty basic. Not that they are wrong but in pics there appaers to be a squareness to the business end so I replaced the longer one with one from the spares box.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/prybars.jpg

James Tainton
08-12-2004, 08:09 PM
I wanted to thin the fender in the front and maybe not use the front mud flap so I thought to file it done in the front. This was done but in the end with the way things are made to go together the side wall would need to be trimmed and there seemed to be other issues so in the end I will use the front mud flap- but the removal of this lip on the front seems to allow a better fit for the mud flap so Alles wird gut.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/fenderfront.jpg

James Tainton
08-12-2004, 08:17 PM
parts layed out on masking tape prior to priming with flat black.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/prepforpaint.jpg

and finally some paint goes on!
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/spray1.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/black.jpg

James Tainton
08-12-2004, 08:25 PM
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/spray2.jpg

pic showing the grey on. I used two tones of grey. a dark one first and then a slightly lighter one. The first one is from Xtracolor X800 perported to be RAL 7021 Schwartzgrau and the second colour is from Humbrol No. 66. The first colour was sprayed on all surfaces and I did the panel shading process in consentrating on the center of panels. The lighter colour was used only on the top panels to give some dimesion and to intimate some sun bleaching and just to give some contast
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/grey.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/grey2.jpg

James Tainton
08-12-2004, 11:47 PM
a good shot of the real thing..
http://www.kunst-troedel.de/fotos/aug2004-0308-106.jpg

Stuke Sowle
08-13-2004, 08:55 AM
Looking great so far James. How much you going to weather this little guy?

James Tainton
08-13-2004, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Stuke Sowle@Aug 13 2004, 08:55 AM
Looking great so far James. How much you going to weather this little guy?
Danke, SS. I will be keeping it to dust that would accumulate on the Rollebahn on the way to France. No mud and no damage.

Here I am beginning the process of adding some flavour to the grey clours by doing some rust on appropriate surfaces - like the muffler and the leaf springs. This is just the first part of a process I used Humbrol 113 I believe.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/mufflerrust1.jpg

James Tainton
08-13-2004, 11:01 PM
here I have painted primer red, (Humbrol 113 again) on the bottom of the tank hull as I doubt they would bother painting that with the base colours.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/bottomprimerred.jpg

these are a few of the paints I will use to do some airbrushing of dirt and dust.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/paint.jpg

Stuke Sowle
08-14-2004, 11:16 AM
I've got some of the Vallejo Air sitting on my bench but haven't sprayed it yet How do you like it? Any tips for a first time user?

Oh, BTW looking good. I like the idea of the primer red underneath.

James Tainton
08-14-2004, 10:19 PM
You should maybe place this question in the finishes section as maybe more people may see it and respond besides me ;)
My experience is that the paint is good although I don't think the Panzer Yellow is very accurate in hue. (Too yellow).
The tip of my airbrush needle (Pasche VL) seems to acumulate dried pigment fast with this so I have to pull out the needle every now and then to clean the tip off . The other thing is with the squeeze type bottle you should be careful to put only enough paint to do the job at hand into your paint feed cup, as the process of putting the left overs back into the bottle is pretty difficult, comparatively to other bottles such as Tamiya.
I like 'em but still like my Model Master, Humbrols, Xtracolor, Tamiya, and Gunze.

After the dirt goes on you can't really see the primer anymore , but I know it's there. :lol:

James Tainton
08-15-2004, 12:04 AM
not to much time/energy to discribe this images- they pretty much speak for themselves. The pics are a bit behind I got to put the decals on tonight after removing the oil wash I put on last night.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/dirtspray.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/dirtspray2.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/dirtspray3.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/dirtspray4.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/dirtspray5.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/dirtspray6.jpg

James Tainton
08-16-2004, 12:39 AM
the leaf springs and muffler again with the second rust job.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/mufflerrust2.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/leafsprings.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/muffler3.jpg
muffler installed
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/mufflerinstalled.jpg
with the muffler screen from the PE fret included with the kit in place.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/muffler6.jpg
and the armour cover in place over the exhaust pipe .
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/mufflerscreen2.jpg

James Tainton
08-16-2004, 12:55 AM
now the future clear goes on prior to the oil wash and decaling.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/future.jpg
here the paint thinner and oil paint wash has been applied.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/oilwash1.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/oilwash2.jpg
here I have wiped the oil wash off after it dried over night.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/oilwashwipedback2.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/oilwashwipedback.jpg

James Tainton
08-16-2004, 01:05 AM
sometimes I also repaint the central panels like here
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/repaint.jpg

James Tainton
08-16-2004, 01:17 AM
Now my favorite part -the decals! :lol:
the sheet included with the DML kit.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/decals.jpg

Since I already have a Panzer I/A (Tristar) in Polish campaign livery
http://members.shaw.ca/panther5/panzer%201%20june%202/DSCF0029_1.JPG

I chose to do the more colourful version offered in the kit for the 7th Pz.Div., France, 1940.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/decal1.jpg

This decal has just been applied so it has not conformed to the turret surface yet.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/decal2.jpg
The decals are very nice and scrunch down onto any bolts with a drop of Mr. Decal (or whatever it's called)
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/decalcloseup.jpg

James Tainton
08-16-2004, 01:27 AM
here all decals are in place
the tires are painted and glued together into sub-assemblies. All tools are sorted and detailed.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/decal4.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/decal5.jpg
after that had dries the decals are given a very light spray of Furure again just to seal them and then the whole model is painted in Humbrol matte cote.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/decal6mattecote.jpg

James Tainton
08-16-2004, 01:54 AM
After the matte cote is dry I then did a little bit of drybrushing with oil paint mixed to a lighter colour of grey than the base coat.
A couple of years or so ago there was a real surge in interest and use of "pastel powder" to give more realistic weathering effects to tank models. Not to sound cool or anything, but I happened to come upon this type of thing at a railway model shop a good while before there was any MIG product or MMP - I guess train modellers have been using this stuff for years - anyhow the aging on this vehicle continues with airbrush dusting and pastel dust applied with a paint brush and rubbed in - the layers are built up just as in life- one application doesn't look good for me. ;) I don't use pastels a lot as I like to have permenant results but in this case I thought the dust look was required and what better way than to use dust. BTW the airbrush and powder thing...they are two seperate processes... airbrush paint and then when that is dry use a brush to dust in the powder - I'm not airbrushing powder... sorry for any confusion.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/powder.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/powder2.jpg
dust concentrate in areas it would collect while travelling down a dusty road on the way to Paris
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/powder3.jpg
http://www.kunst-troedel.de/fotos/aug2004-0308-149.jpg

James Tainton
08-16-2004, 02:07 AM
here jack block is in place
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/jackblockinstalled.jpg

Tuna
08-16-2004, 08:11 AM
Wow James.. you work Fast!! and fiddling with the T34 at the same time!.. Keep the pictures coming, this build has been a great learning experience for us viewers! ;)

James Tainton
08-16-2004, 11:36 AM
Thanks Tuna glad I can be of some service...
The reason I do all the weathering and dust ect. prior to the permenant installation of the tools is so the dust really lives under the tool like in real life. Things don't get broke that way too.
Here is the right rear fender getting the dust treatment before the jack gets layed in..
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/dustpriortojack.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/jack.jpg

and the underside
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/underside.jpg

Stuke Sowle
08-16-2004, 11:42 PM
Looking really good buddy. That jack block is a dead ringer for the real thing!

Keep on posting!! :thumb:

James Tainton
08-17-2004, 12:59 AM
Thanks SS, not done yet...
;)
here the shovel slide has been slid in place .
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/shovelon.jpg

James Tainton
08-17-2004, 02:56 AM
here the antenae can be seen in the raised position and the fire extiguisher is in place

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/nearendleftront.jpg

Stuke Sowle
08-20-2004, 10:07 PM
Man James, this one is turning out sweet! :)

How'd you pull off the wood handles, they look dead on.

James Tainton
08-23-2004, 03:41 AM
Well I'm gettin' behind in posting... forgat where I was... I've been distracted lately.. anyhow the extinguisher gets put on and the headlight and oversized hull width indicaor lights get preped out in silver colour for the gluing in of the kit's clear parts.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/lowfront.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/lowfrontright.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/lowleftfront.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/lowrear.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/lowrearleft.jpg

James Tainton
08-23-2004, 12:26 PM
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/extinguisherclose.jpg

James Tainton
08-23-2004, 12:32 PM
jack and wirecutter in place. I also have glued the return rollers in place in prep for the addition of the track- which I have to make yet ;)
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/jackwirecutter.jpg

James Tainton
08-23-2004, 12:52 PM
these single links from DML are pretty nice but the fly in the ointment is that they have five sprue attachment points..

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/trackfivepoint.jpg

so there is a lot of labour involved- but if one can gird one's loins(or in my case do it at the beach)

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/beach2.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/beach.jpg

The results are worth it. Try not to rush that's all. The way I approached it was to build sub sets of five links this made the handling of the lengths managable, things wouldn't be breaking off or moving so much as would happen if it was a sequenqual build of one link after antother.
After these were all made I could make the top lengths first and then the bottom and then the end pieces together. I used these foam earplugs that I get at work, cut to size to brace the tracks in place against the return rollers and the fenders, The return rollers need to have been glued on and cured before this process. ;)

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/fivetread.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/fourfive.jpg

James Tainton
08-23-2004, 01:02 PM
These earplugs can be squished down to nothing and fit in place where they expand and form a friction hold.

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/earplug1.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/ear2.jpg

James Tainton
08-23-2004, 01:12 PM
top length dry

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/ear3dry.jpg
and the rest of the process..
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/ear4.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/ear4_1.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/ear5.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/ear6.jpg

James Tainton
08-23-2004, 01:23 PM
Whew! done-
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/tracksdone.jpg
and painted and in place..
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/tracksinplace.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/trackinplace2.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/tracksinplace3.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/tracksinplace4.jpg

James Tainton
08-23-2004, 01:30 PM
Front mud flaps next and a few tweaks and it will be done. ;)
For some reason this is where it gets hard to finish... :(

James Tainton
08-23-2004, 02:02 PM
Artist's colour plate I found in Concord Publications Panzerwaffe at War (1) Nuremburg to Moscow #7013 .
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/plate.jpg
I forgot to add the Pz. Div. sign- that is one of the tweaks ;)
The details on the back of this (and another colour plate I have), seem to indicate that the later version of engine deck would be in order, which is not included with this kit. :(
However one I have by Ewe Feist doesn't have this extra armour ? I would like to see the original photo these guys are working from the ancient "Panzer Truppen" book.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/plate2.jpg

Also this one from Jean Restayn's "Tanks of World War Two", shows the upper engine cover armour ect.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/plate3.jpg
and I found another one in a Russian "mag" that is about the Pz.I
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/plate4.jpg

James Tainton
08-24-2004, 01:24 AM
Here the front mud flaps added...
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/mudflapon.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/mudflaponfront.jpg

Tuna
08-24-2004, 07:30 AM
Awsome build James!!! Was a lot of fun watching it... also very informative, gives quite a few ideas.. lol maybe you should do some books or get in one of the modeling mags!

Again thanks for sharing!

Stuke Sowle
08-24-2004, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Tuna@Aug 24 2004, 07:30 AM
Awsome build James!!! Was a lot of fun watching it... also very informative, gives quite a few ideas.. lol maybe you should do some books or get in one of the modeling mags!

Again thanks for sharing!
I agree! I would buy a copy for sure. :)

Great looking build James, and really enjoyable to follow along every step of the way. This kind of stuff is great for people who are trying to improve at this hobby.

James Tainton
08-25-2004, 12:58 PM
You guys...thanks.
Anyway you're all talking like I'm done- not quite. Still a few things to finish up before this will be ready for the show in Oct. or the gallery over at Track-link ;)
Here is the springs for the rear mud flap I made from wire.
http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/fenderspring.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/hetzer/PanzerI-BpartII/fenderspring2.jpg ;)

Sticky
08-25-2004, 01:10 PM
This is one really nice build! What show are you going to take it to?

James Tainton
08-25-2004, 01:16 PM
Thanks!
this one here...
http://members.tripod.com/~ipms/fallshow.htm
I've got another Pz. I,(an A), and a Nashorn (or two) a Jeep, hmmm I know there are few others... got to get them all done! :o

James Tainton
08-26-2004, 11:39 PM
Nearing the end but still little nic-nacs to finish up...
a quick side shot for now....
http://members.shaw.ca/achtungpanzer/M%3aU%3aG/side1.jpg

James Tainton
08-27-2004, 03:21 AM
It's going to get a nice little base I'm working on right now as well - will add on-board stowage items too.

http://members.shaw.ca/achtungpanzer/M%3aU%3aG/base.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/achtungpanzer/M%3aU%3aG/base1.jpg
this was the inspiration
http://members.shaw.ca/achtungpanzer/M%3aU%3aG/Belfort.jpg
I may put some tram tracks in but maybe just keep it simple.. :thumb:

Sticky
08-27-2004, 08:26 AM
Lookin very nice.

Guest
08-27-2004, 02:04 PM
I agree looks great, but you know since you showed that base you made you really need to explain how you made it! :)

Please!!!!

Stuke Sowle
08-27-2004, 02:04 PM
Ahh, always forgettin' to sign in!

James Tainton
08-28-2004, 10:55 PM
Well I'll try to get something done to show ya. ;)
Here is a link to some photos I took at last years show that I was talking about before..

http://members.shaw.ca/pantherd/2003%20imps/2003%20imps.html

Tuna
08-30-2004, 08:06 AM
Awsome Show Pics James!.. thanks for sharing.. I love that T-26 and Hellcat.. perfect weathering! :lol:

James Tainton
08-30-2004, 09:40 AM
Hey the T-26 was/is mine ;)
T-26 (http://www.track-link.net/gallery/1635)

Sticky
08-30-2004, 10:07 AM
Yes I really liked the T26! Can you give us some more photos?

Tuna
08-30-2004, 04:32 PM
More Pics.. go looking and Ye shall find!!!.. Looks awsome James!

Jame's T-26 (http://www.track-link.net/gallery/1635)

Sticky
08-30-2004, 04:59 PM
Thank you, thank you very much!

Finnmodeler
11-11-2004, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by panzerfaust@Aug 27 2004, 03:21 AM
It's going to get a nice little base I'm working on right now as well - will add on-board stowage items too.


Hi,
how did you do stone paving in the baseor is it ready made? I have an article from Minitracks that a nice idea of doing it in small scale. I'll do it one day:D

Niko

rout_88
05-30-2005, 08:43 AM
hi !
sorry for digging up this topic , but can you measure a length and width of a tie of tracks ? it would be great , if you will measure all the details of the tie but length and width can be enough ;)
regards

Miloslav H.
06-04-2006, 10:53 AM
Great Work!

Thank You James!!!

Bye
Milo