New Project B1 bis [Archive]

Plushy

06-23-2006, 09:14 AM

And Heres were i am at so far .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB002.jpg

and heres how far i have got on my partial interior . :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB003.jpg

if only i could build something OOB :(

brokeneagle

06-23-2006, 09:21 AM

Hey James,
good to see you back at the Planet. ;) Interesting tank.......I have never seen one of these before. Is it big? :o It looks it......... how does it compare in size with a panzer 4? Could you take a photo with a german tank next to it? ;)

Plushy

06-23-2006, 11:31 AM

Hi Ian ,
Its good to be back , just gotta find a cure for my AMS then everything will be normal again . I have always been a fan of the French tanks during the early war years so as soon as Tamiya said they were going to produce the Char B1, i put in my preorder at hobbylink.

I have 2 of the Char B1`s now along with a Comet by Bronco and have two more Char B`s on the way as well as a SIG 33 Bison 1 and the AFV Aussie Centurion . So look out for more Vbench posts very soon . :lol:

Heres the comparisons of size against the Revell / Dragon Stug 3G which i must get back too at some stage and finish .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/bc8c0e6b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB005.jpg

And i am thinking one of these two paint schemes .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/B1bis-madagascar.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/B1bis-cher.jpg

the last two pictures are copyright to profils.tk.

Hagar

06-23-2006, 02:32 PM

I was just wondering about the sheet plastic you added to the top of the sponson. Will it be noticable if not added and what is it for? Also I noticed you have not shaved the 2 rectangular pieces off of the hatch on the upper deck. I'm trying to find pictures to see if these are handles and so must be replaced or actual protrusians. Do you know? Thanks in advance.

Oh and cool to see so far. I'll have to watch your build.
James

Plushy

06-23-2006, 08:14 PM

Hi Hagar ,
the light coloured parts on the top of the sponsons are not sheet plastic they are mr surfacer 500 filling up the injection release points . I did find a photo showing the real vehicle without tracks and the sections i have painted with mr surfacer should actually be removed .

see here :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/b1bis_seclin01-1.jpg

havent stated working on the top deck yet but the two rectangular hatches just behind the turret need the protusions replaced with handles but this doesnt seem to be the same on all B1`s the vehicle at Samur doesnt have handles on the two hatches . The Photos of the B1 bis `ATHOS` seem too show the presence of handles .

Sticky

06-23-2006, 09:21 PM

Hi James - Looking nice - I have one on the way as well - Might have to push some StuG's back a bit!

Larry Bates

06-24-2006, 02:15 AM

Hi James,

Looks like it will be a nice one! Good to see you back at it!

Oh, and I vote for the scheme on number 7 :thumb:

Larry

sam_dwyer

06-24-2006, 04:32 AM

Nice work so far Plushy!
Its a belter of a kit, did you pick it up locally? I think they came into stock here in Melbourne on Friday. Ill definately be picking up another, to convert into a flamm

Looking forward to seeing your progress

Sam

Hagar

06-24-2006, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Plushy@Jun 23 2006, 07:14 PM
Hi Hagar ,
the light coloured parts on the top of the sponsons are not sheet plastic they are mr surfacer 500 filling up the injection release points . I did find a photo showing the real vehicle without tracks and the sections i have painted with mr surfacer should actually be removed .

see here :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/b1bis_seclin01-1.jpg

havent stated working on the top deck yet but the two rectangular hatches just behind the turret need the protusions replaced with handles but this doesnt seem to be the same on all B1`s the vehicle at Samur doesnt have handles on the two hatches . The Photos of the B1 bis `ATHOS` seem too show the presence of handles .
Thanks. Those pics are awealth of info. As far as schemes go I like the looks of 7 but I also like the blue heart of M. So I guess buy another and do both??javascript:emoticon(';)')
smilie
Well thanks again and looking good.
James

Hagar

06-24-2006, 08:35 AM

panamadan

06-24-2006, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by Plushy@Jun 23 2006, 10:31 AM
Hi Ian ,
Its good to be back , just gotta find a cure for my AMS then everything will be normal again . I have always been a fan of the French tanks during the early war years so as soon as Tamiya said they were going to produce the Char B1, i put in my preorder at hobbylink.

I have 2 of the Char B1`s now along with a Comet by Bronco and have two more Char B`s on the way as well as a SIG 33 Bison 1 and the AFV Aussie Centurion . So look out for more Vbench posts very soon . :lol:

Heres the comparisons of size against the Revell / Dragon Stug 3G which i must get back too at some stage and finish .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/bc8c0e6b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB005.jpg

And i am thinking one of these two paint schemes .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/B1bis-madagascar.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/B1bis-cher.jpg

the last two pictures are copyright to profils.tk.
Go with the white "M"! You don't see blue on a tank much. Dan

Sheeds

06-25-2006, 02:12 AM

Cracker work Jimmy! :thumb:

Willy.

mic bradshaw

06-25-2006, 03:56 AM

Hahahaha excellent Plushy.
Yeah Sam they were instock until today. Although I believe not all stores had received stock as yet.

:)

Mic B

Plushy

06-25-2006, 04:11 AM

Hi Sam i ordered mine from hobbylink japan as my local shop overcharges by about 15 % :angry: and i havent been able to visit melbourne with everything thats happened recently .

i have decided seeing as i have two kits with two more on the way i am gonna build this one up as MADAGASCAR and then i reckon i will build the other as CHER so keep an eye out for CHER on here . ;)

brokeneagle

06-25-2006, 04:51 AM

:) Thanks for the compare pics Plushy. ;) Not as big as it looks but interesting. Looking forward to more pics. I'd go with 7. wierd cammo.

Striker

06-26-2006, 10:36 AM

You can see more pictures of a (still) working B1 Bis on this link :

http://milinet.free.fr/modules.php?op=modl...showgall&gid=15 (http://milinet.free.fr/modules.php?op=modload&name=My_eGallery&file=index&do=showgall&gid=15)

This is the B1Bis from Saumur Museum France.

Take care about these references, seems that the museum don't use the good turret and there's something wrong - can't remember what but i can ask B1 Bis expert on French forum if you want. ;)

Plushy

06-26-2006, 09:17 PM

Benjamin,
from memory the problem with the B1 Bis in Saumur is that there is a hatch on top of the commanders observation turret which isnt present on any of the other survivng B1`s .

I prefer to use the WW2 photos to work out the details rather than museum vehicles .

Cheers Plushy

Bruno GILARD

07-02-2006, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by Plushy@Jun 23 2006, 07:14 PM
Hi Hagar ,
the light coloured parts on the top of the sponsons are not sheet plastic they are mr surfacer 500 filling up the injection release points . I did find a photo showing the real vehicle without tracks and the sections i have painted with mr surfacer should actually be removed .

see here :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/b1bis_seclin01-1.jpg

havent stated working on the top deck yet but the two rectangular hatches just behind the turret need the protusions replaced with handles but this doesnt seem to be the same on all B1`s the vehicle at Samur doesnt have handles on the two hatches . The Photos of the B1 bis `ATHOS` seem too show the presence of handles .
Hi James !

Nice and interesting photo !
Recent probably ?
Where was it taken ?

Plushy

07-02-2006, 11:52 PM

Hi Bruno
The B1`s in the photo are at Fort Seclin ,
i dont know when the photo was taken as i found it on the Chars Francais website .

Hopefully someone one who lives nearby might be able to provide more photos one day i certainly have my fingers crossed that they will .

Plushy

07-09-2006, 06:27 AM

Here`s my Update so far :

Interior photos are scarse to say the least and the plans i have found dont have scale or measurments so the old mk 1 eyeball is my ruler . So please forgive some things being a bit wrong . ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/1e2fc10b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/5e1b88c8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/722a1a22.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB1006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/a3bdc6fa.jpg

I have also started on the hull roof and then i can get onto the main hull gun area.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB1011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/CharB1009.jpg

cheers Plushy

Panzergrenadier

07-09-2006, 09:46 AM

I admire your work as a part of it will never be seen. ;)

And I might suggest making some kind of a breech for the gun.

Siim

mic bradshaw

07-10-2006, 05:54 AM

Plushy,
Sweet work mate. Looks the good.

Mic

Plushy

07-10-2006, 06:30 AM

Hi Siim
I am starting on the Breech for the gun soon i managed to find bucket loads of photos hidden in the depths of the internet so i should be able too make a accurate representation of everything hopefully .

Hi Mic thanks for the encouragement :)

cheers Plushy

Larry Bates

07-10-2006, 08:51 AM

Very nice James,

I'll be watching.

Larry

James Tainton

07-10-2006, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by Plushy@Jul 10 2006, 03:30 AM
Hi Siim
I am starting on the Breech for the gun soon i managed to find bucket loads of photos hidden in the depths of the internet so i should be able too make a accurate representation of everything hopefully .

Hi Mic thanks for the encouragement :)

cheers Plushy
Nice work Plushy! Erm... do you think you could share with me the "internet" info? ;)

Sheeds

07-10-2006, 05:09 PM

Looking fantastic Jimmy. Props to you for scratching an interior. :thumb:

Looking forward to seeing this finished.

Cheers, Willy.

RC_Hill

07-10-2006, 06:02 PM

:o Sweeeeeet! ;) Is that Lionroar or Aber p/e 'plating' that you used for the floor of the compartment? j/w

Ok, this may sooooo very elementary, but here goes....is the back end solely for the engine? I mean, obviously, that's the engine compartment area, but that's just so much space! Was the engine that big? I'm just curious because overall, this tank seems so massive...

RC

Plushy

07-10-2006, 06:19 PM

Hi Guys ,
Thanks for the Props .

R.C the majority of the back section was for the motor and transmission but there was also a radio ,ammo storage fuel tank and a hell of a big radiator in there as well . The motor wasa big old inline aircraft motor a 16.5 litre 6 cylinder .
The floor plating is an old sheet i had lying around i think it was from Eduard .
this is the floor plan from the Chars Francais website .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/b1bis-plan_01.jpg

James do you want all the photos or just certain parts ?? send me a pm and i will send you what i have . :)

Andrew Hall

07-10-2006, 06:35 PM

Excellent work Plushy, you're a brave man! Glad to hear you found some interior pics :)

RC, the engine space is from behind the turret to where the top armour angles down. From this point to the rear is the space for the transmission for the rear drive.

This elevation from Char Francais will make it clear.

xxhttp://www.chars-francais.net/images/plans/b1b/b1bis-plan_06.jpgxx

Regarding it's size, oddly when you stick a 1/35 figure next to the model it seems a lot smaller than it does when you stand next to it in real life. Using familiar vehicles for comparison, it's sort of Panther length but not so wide and not quite so tall - more Sherman sized for the latter two. It does stick out amongst vehicles of it's era though.

Regards _ Andrew