KV II Big Turret.

[Uruk-Hai]

Hello fellows!

I just brought home this kit. It surely looks nice. But theres no explantion of the markings to place the vehicle on map and time? Can anybody help me with this?

Hers the link to the review on PMMS.
KV II Review (http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/trumpeter/tr00311.htm)

Cheers

[Andy07]

Janne,
I just looked in one of my KV references, Wydawnictwo #163 KW vol. 1.. It has a few pictures of that KVII in trials during 1940 in the leningrad district. It also has two pics of the early type KVII knocked out and both captions place the vehicles in Lithuania in June of 1941. The thing is that both combat and training pics have no turret markings at all. Hope that helps. Andy

[Uruk-Hai]

Thanks Andrew!

Ill think Ill have to take me some liberties here. ;)

Cheers

[avukich]

The only KV-2s with markings that I have ever seen are those made by modelers. The simply did not have markings from what I can tell. I have captured about 50 pictures or so of different vehicles (both early and late KV-2s) from eBay and a bunch more from books and none of them have any markings except for one late KV-2 captured by the Germans and marked with chalk regarding the armor.

[Larry Bates]

Originally posted by avukich@Feb 14 2006, 09:35 AM
The only KV-2s with markings that I have ever seen are those made by modelers. The simply did not have markings from what I can tell. I have captured about 50 pictures or so of different vehicles (both early and late KV-2s) from eBay and a bunch more from books and none of them have any markings except for one late KV-2 captured by the Germans and marked with chalk regarding the armor.
Yep,

I gotta agree with Adam. All the pics I have of KV-II 's don't have any markings, unless you count the chalked markings from the Germans after capturing them.

Larry

[Uruk-Hai]

Thanks for the information Adam and Larry.

How about the slogans then, are they fictional as well?

Cheers

[Larry Bates]

Janne,

Unless you have photographic evidence to prove otherwise I would think it is probably a maketing gimic to help sell the model or from some special propaganda photo.

Larry

[avukich]

Janne,

I have seen plenty of slogans painted on T-34s and KV-1s, but not KV-2s. I think that the reason for this is that they didn't begin painting the slogans on the vehicles until they started sending new replacement vehicles to the front. The KV-2s that saw action were very early in the Barbarossa campaign and they were not producing any more of that vehicle by the time the Germans invaded. From what I understand, the majority of slogans painted on the tanks were done by the factory workers and they would have had no reason to paint political slogans on the vehicles prior to the German invasion. If you pay attention to the dates of pictures where slogans are visible they are almost all from 1942 and beyond, but every picture I have seen of KV-2s is dated 1941 because they weren't using them much beyond the defense of Moscow during the winter of 1941.

HTH,
Adam