Tristar's Panzer IV Ausf C [Archive]

Flak

01-09-2006, 02:21 AM

I am going to presented my PzIV C in 1 Panzer Division at France 1940 ;)

I would like to reseached the Pz IV C line drawing and some war time photoes of PzIV C in France...any reference book you are recommended...or any pictures you can share ;)

Flak

01-09-2006, 08:00 AM

Here we go... ;)

Step 1 Road Wheel Assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21788&img=Tri-PzIV-C-03.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21756&img=Tri-PzIV-C-04.j.jpg

Here is the closed up shot...noted the correct spelling of "CONTINENTAL" ;)

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21757&img=Tri-PzIV-C-05.j.jpg

Flak

01-10-2006, 08:14 AM

Step 2 Suspension Assembly - Each 4 per side...

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21789&img=Tri-PzIV-C-06.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21758&img=Tri-PzIV-C-07.j.jpg

Flak

01-11-2006, 08:36 AM

Step 3 Sprocket Wheel Assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21820&img=Tri-PzIV-C-08.j.jpg

Here is the complated shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21822&img=Tri-PzIV-C-09.j.jpg

Flak

01-11-2006, 08:52 AM

Step 4 Drive Housing Assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21821&img=Tri-PzIV-C-10.j.jpg

I cutted off the bolts very carefully from the sprue...and then droped a small Tamiya EXTRA THIN cement onto the recess area...and then use a Tweezers to managed the bolt in position.

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21826&img=Tri-PzIV-C-11.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21825&img=Tri-PzIV-C-12.j.jpg

Sticky

01-11-2006, 09:36 AM

Looks good so far. Did they correct the engine deck hinges on the C?

Flak

01-12-2006, 08:09 AM

I have no idea...because I cannot found any pictures or drawing from my refernce book - Achtung Panzer :( what is the error on the engine deck hinge?

Flak

01-12-2006, 08:38 AM

Step 5 Chassis assembly

I have jumped onto the Chassis assembly...to let the glue dry enough..when I glud the Suspension onto the Chassis later...

Here is the scan of Tristar's insturction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21842&img=Tri-PzIV-C-13.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

Side...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21851&img=Tri-PzIV-C-14.j.jpg

Bottom...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21852&img=Tri-PzIV-C-15.j.jpg

James Tainton

01-12-2006, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Sticky@Jan 11 2006, 07:36 AM
Looks good so far. Did they correct the engine deck hinges on the C?
I believe I saw a post at ML that it had been remedied.
Maybe something in here
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/revi...ar/tri35017.htm (http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/tristar/tri35017.htm)

Sticky

01-12-2006, 10:17 AM

This is from the Perth Site.

The engine deck doors are both separate with more excellent flush screw head and latch details as well as a separate grab handle and the hatch hinges have the correct orientation but the fit of the engine deck doors will need some very minor trimming to get a precise fit but nothing excessive. The rear sections of fenders are also separate parts with excellent tread plate pattern and separate fender extensions and tail lights.

Flak

01-12-2006, 08:08 PM

Noted with thanks... ;)

Flak

01-13-2006, 08:38 AM

Step 6 Bolts and Nuts details on the Bottom of the Chassis

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21900&img=Tri-PzIV-C-16.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21904&img=Tri-PzIV-C-17.j.jpg

Step 7 Road Wheel Assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21901&img=Tri-PzIV-C-18.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21905&img=Tri-PzIV-C-19.j.jpg

Flak

01-14-2006, 08:07 AM

Step 8 Idler Wheel assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21903&img=Tri-PzIV-C-22.j.jpg

The assembly of the Idler Wheels are poor...gap and part line mis-match...need more work on it... :angry:

Here is the completed shot...awaiting fine tune...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21975&img=Tri-PzIV-C-23.j.jpg

James Tainton

01-14-2006, 12:40 PM

That's odd ....are these idlers different than the D....I mean the construction sequence? The D's I did worked pretty well?
http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=15623&img=idler2.jpg

Flak

01-15-2006, 09:03 AM

I have spent 3 hours for fine tune the Idler Wheels...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22050&img=Tri-PzIV-C-24.j.jpg

are these idlers different than the D....I mean the construction sequence?

I think they are in same Idlers and in same construction...the problem is my idlers had short shot probelm on the outer boss...see the putty area on the picture...

Flak

01-16-2006, 08:30 AM

Step 9 Rear Plate assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22124&img=Tri-PzIV-C-25.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22126&img=Tri-PzIV-C-26.j.jpg

Step 10 Suspension Bar assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=21902&img=Tri-PzIV-C-20.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22051&img=Tri-PzIV-C-21.j.jpg

Flak

01-17-2006, 08:50 AM

Step 11 Front Plate assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22153&img=Tri-PzIV-C-29.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22128&img=Tri-PzIV-C-30.j.jpg

Flak

01-18-2006, 08:28 AM

Step 12 Suspension Bars assembly onto the Chassis

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22154&img=Tri-PzIV-C-31.j.jpg

All the Suspension Bars glued in position

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22129&img=Tri-PzIV-C-32.j.jpg

Here is the closed up shot...noted the workable suspension bars...it's cool ;)

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22127&img=Tri-PzIV-C-28.j.jpg

Larry Bates

01-18-2006, 10:35 AM

Nice job Marco,

It looks like it goes together pretty well? I have the suspension set only, to use probably on a dml IV J. The wheels rubber part in mine needed to be trimmed to fit did you find that in your kit?

Larry

Flak

01-19-2006, 08:28 AM

The wheels rubber part in mine needed to be trimmed to fit did you find that in your kit?

Yes, same probelm...but it is easy to fixed them...just used the sand paper to trimmed the wheels rubber part line....it fixed very well...

All the wheels are in position

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22210&img=Tri-PzIV-C-27.j.jpg

Step 13 Front Panel assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22155&img=Tri-PzIV-C-33.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22130&img=Tri-PzIV-C-34.j.jpg

Flak

01-20-2006, 08:00 AM

Step 14 Upper Hull assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22343&img=Tri-PzIV-C-35.j.jpg

A shot for upper hull

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22131&img=Tri-PzIV-C-36.j.jpg

Engine Deck assembly...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22291&img=Tri-PzIV-C-37.j.jpg

Stuke Sowle

01-20-2006, 01:31 PM

Nice progress! I'm not a huge fan of the early war IV's, but the DML and Tristar kits will make you a fan pretty quickly!

Flak

01-21-2006, 08:15 AM

The Driver and the Radio Operator Hatches are in placed

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22352&img=Tri-PzIV-C-38.j.jpg

Left Side Armor plate completed

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22353&img=Tri-PzIV-C-39.j.jpg

Sticky

01-21-2006, 08:25 AM

Looks good so far, but I wonder why the hatch edges are so rough? It looks out of scale to me.

Flak

01-22-2006, 08:23 AM

Right Side Armor plate completed

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22396&img=Tri-PzIV-C-40.j.jpg

Completed shot for Right Lower Hull

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22397&img=Tri-PzIV-C-41.j.jpg

Closed up for the Air Let (Right)

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22398&img=Tri-PzIV-C-42.j.jpg

Flak

01-24-2006, 08:38 AM

Tristar has marked the wrong number on the front fender on the instruction sheet...see the below correct number...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22589&img=Tri-PzIV-C-44.j.jpg

Flak

01-26-2006, 08:03 AM

And had the short shot problem on the Left Air Let...I have cutted and replaced it by 0.5mm Styene plate...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22729&img=Tri-PzIV-C-43.j.jpg

Step 15 Rear Fender assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet and the completed shot...will add the Tail Reflector later...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22730&img=Tri-PzIV-C-45.j.jpg

Flak

01-28-2006, 08:00 AM

Step 16 Lower Hull assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22882&img=Tri-PzIV-C-46.j.jpg

Here are completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22869&img=Tri-PzIV-C-47.j.jpg

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22870&img=Tri-PzIV-C-48.j.jpg

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=22871&img=Tri-PzIV-C-49.j.jpg

Larry Bates

01-28-2006, 11:41 AM

Looking good Marco :thumb:

Larry

mnickolson

01-28-2006, 12:29 PM

Nice... ;) I am going to have to break down and buy one of these to build sometime...or another :)

Mike

Flak

01-29-2006, 08:56 AM

Step 17 Cylinder Engine Mufler assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23009&img=Tri-PzIV-C-50.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot of Cylinder Engine Muffler...the Muffler for turret traverse auxillary engine from Tristar's is not good...will re-make it later...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23010&img=Tri-PzIV-C-51.j.jpg

Step 18 Rear Plate assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23011&img=Tri-PzIV-C-52.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23012&img=Tri-PzIV-C-53.j.jpg

panamadan

01-29-2006, 10:00 AM

Marco, Enjoying your build! Dan

Flak

01-30-2006, 09:33 AM

Step 19 Back of Manlet assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23013&img=Tri-PzIV-C-54.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23017&img=Tri-PzIV-C-55.j.jpg

Step 20 Manlet assembly

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23018&img=Tri-PzIV-C-56.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23019&img=Tri-PzIV-C-57.j.jpg

Flak

01-30-2006, 09:52 AM

Step 21 Gun assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23020&img=Tri-PzIV-C-58.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23021&img=Tri-PzIV-C-59.j.jpg

Larry Bates

01-30-2006, 11:04 AM

Hi Marco,
Nice clean up on the muffler.

L

Flak

01-31-2006, 08:08 AM

Step 22 Turret Basket assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23096&img=Tri-PzIV-C-60.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23097&img=Tri-PzIV-C-61.j.jpg

Step 23 Cupola assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23154&img=Tri-PzIV-C-62.j.jpg

Here is the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23155&img=Tri-PzIV-C-63.j.jpg

RC_Hill

02-02-2006, 12:41 AM

I thought that they would have added some more details to the interior (like the turntable texture or something) :(

Excellent build though!

Can I ask, how did the turret come together? On mine, though all the parts are supposed to be the same, I had a funny fit (little gaps that were rather noticable).

Sticky

02-02-2006, 11:05 AM

Super clean build so far Marco. So many parts, Oh my!

Flak

02-04-2006, 07:05 AM

Step 24 Final Turret assembly

Here is the scan of Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23372&img=Tri-PzIV-C-67.j.jpg

Here are the completed shot

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23367&img=Tri-PzIV-C-68.j.jpg

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23370&img=Tri-PzIV-C-69.j.jpg

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23371&img=Tri-PzIV-C-70.j.jpg

Flak

02-07-2006, 08:05 AM

Step 25 OVE (On-Vehicle Equipment) assembly for Left Fender

Here is the scan of the Tristar's instruction sheet

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23535&img=Tri-PzIV-C-71.j.jpg

But, I am not happy with the molded clamps

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23536&img=Tri-PzIV-C-72.j.jpg

I will replace the molded Clamps with the NEW German Tool Holders set (Early) from Aber's...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=23537&img=Tri-PzIV-C-73.j.jpg

Larry Bates

02-07-2006, 09:06 AM

Looking good Marco! :thumb:

Larry

Sticky

02-07-2006, 10:15 AM

I see light at the end of the tunnel!

didieren

02-18-2006, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by Sticky@Feb 7 2006, 10:15 AM
I see light at the end of the tunnel!

What do you think about the pattern on the fenders, Marco ?
Most found it inedequate on the Pz IV D and replaced the fenders with ABER ones.
Do you have any information it might be OK for the ausf C ?

Flak

02-19-2006, 08:00 AM

What do you think about the pattern on the fenders, Marco ?

I think it NOT BAD :)

See below closed up pictures...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=24064&img=Tri-PzIV-C-74.j.jpg

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=24065&img=Tri-PzIV-C-75.j.jpg

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=24066&img=Tri-PzIV-C-76.j.jpg

didieren

02-19-2006, 11:58 AM

Thanks for your answer and pictures. The fenders sure look clean but the dotted pattern itself is puzzling
I refer to the following post by R.C. Hill

http://www.planetarmor.com/forums/index.ph...findpost&p=5905 (http://www.planetarmor.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1140&view=findpost&p=5905)

May be I am too picky but I started also to build this nice detailed kit and would like to fix early this problem, if any. To have it finished knowing afterwards that the fenders are wrong would be very frustrating. Same for you. I noticed that both James Edward and R.C. Hill replaced their ausf D fenders by ABER and DML ausf E ones respectively.

I desperately looked for reference pictures but didn't find any on this particular subject.

Friendly yours

James Tainton

02-19-2006, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by didieren@Feb 19 2006, 09:58 AM
Thanks for your answer and pictures. The fenders sure look clean but the dotted pattern itself is puzzling

May be I am too picky but I started also to build this nice detailed kit and would like to fix early this problem, if any. To have it finished knowing afterwards that the fenders are wrong would be very frustrating. Same for you. I noticed that both James Edward and R.C. Hill replaced their ausf D fenders by ABER and DML ausf E ones respectively.

I desperately looked for reference pictures but didn't find any on this particular subject.

Friendly yours
I think you can see in these pictures that the pattern in the C's fenders has been corrected to look more like the barred pattern of the real thing.
Also I will be replacing the fenders on the Tristar D with Aber ones because the pattern is wrong.
The DML Panzer IV/E that I just finished has the kit's fenders.
The future Panzer IV/E from Dragon that I will build will have the Aber fenders not neccessarily due to accuracy issues- I just want to be more accurate with thickness/pattern/etc. and also I like to solder :)

Flak

03-08-2006, 09:00 AM

I have re-worked the Muffler for Turret Traverse Auxlliary Engine by styene rod...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=24832&img=Tri-PzIV-C-77.j.jpg

The Muffler is in place

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=24833&img=Tri-PzIV-C-78.j.jpg

I also re-worked the Cleaning Rod... ;)

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=24834&img=Tri-PzIV-C-79.j.jpg

The Cleaning Rods are in place

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=24835&img=Tri-PzIV-C-80.j.jpg

Larry Bates

03-08-2006, 09:08 AM

Nice scratch work Marco.

Larry

MrPlasticmodel

03-09-2006, 03:11 PM

Hi Marco
It's looking good nice progres, how is the new Aber etchset to work with?, I'm asking because I have some of the older ones :)

Flak

03-11-2006, 09:00 AM

Hi Dan,

I don't have their old one...but the NEW set is work fine to me and I'm enjoyed it...Aber's has improved/add more details on the NEW set and also made some correction on their NEW sets...

Here is the instruction sheet for the NEW set (Early Version)...
http://www.aber.net.pl/store/cataloque_par..._series/a98.pdf (http://www.aber.net.pl/store/cataloque_parts/_a_series/a98.pdf)

And here is the Late version
http://www.aber.net.pl/store/cataloque_par..._series/a99.pdf (http://www.aber.net.pl/store/cataloque_parts/_a_series/a99.pdf)

You can compare it with your OLD set...and see what is the different between them ;)

MrPlasticmodel

03-12-2006, 06:05 AM

Hi Marco
Thanks for the reply I will do that ;)

Flak

03-19-2006, 07:00 AM

The Crowbar is in place...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=25432&img=Tri-PzIV-C-81.j.jpg

The Wire Cutter is in place...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=25433&img=Tri-PzIV-C-82.j.jpg

mnickolson

03-19-2006, 07:04 AM

Nice work there Marco.

Mike

Flak

03-26-2006, 08:33 AM

The Shackle in place

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=25599&img=Tri-PzIV-C-83.j.jpg

The Jack Rest Block in place...I have replaced the plastic block by real wood...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=25600&img=Tri-PzIV-C-84.j.jpg

Bruga

03-28-2006, 03:32 AM

Very interesting and inspiring work... much more taking into account that I bought one IV C!

I went to Tristar shop in HK, it was well stocked and had very nice prices comparing to Europe :)

Which would be the paint pattern?

Regards,

Antonio

Flak

03-28-2006, 08:53 AM

Yep!!! I went there (Tristar shop) weekly...on Saturday ;)

I would like to present it service in #5 Panzer Division as per the front cover picture as Ground Power...see below picture...

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=25650&img=Tri-PzIV-C-85.j.jpg

However, I only got this picture...and it is NOT enough info...such as the unit mark...etc... :(

Then...I will go to #1 Panzer Division at France 1940, which follow the deco guide from Tristar's ;)

Bruga

03-29-2006, 02:41 AM

I may try one of 21. Panzer Division in Normandy...

But I am not worried for details for the moment as i have some models in stock :lol:

I think I could resist an atomic war in my bunker (houses in Switzerland were built with one in the past) but for Tamiya´s paint, which would be finished quickly...

How nice is Ground Power stuff? Is it wi¡orth a little more than a Concord book? I would pick them just for the drawings and pictures, and the small captation in English, but they are very difficult to find in Europe...

Regards and keep going!

Antonio

Flak

03-29-2006, 08:10 AM

For that books...it contained the line drawings for Panzer IV A~D...and many war time pictures for reference...personally, I like the Ground Power than Concord's ;)

Sticky

03-29-2006, 11:19 AM

Comming along Nicely Marco - I wish I could trade in my Tristar D for a C! :lol:

Bruga

03-29-2006, 03:03 PM

Thanks... I will try to find some Ground Powers in some internet shop of Japan; it´s hard as most of them are only for their national market :angry:

Some Concords donnot have good resolution pics... and they are not so cheap.

Regards,

Antonio

RC_Hill

03-29-2006, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Sticky@Mar 29 2006, 09:19 AM
Comming along Nicely Marco - I wish I could trade in my Tristar D for a C! :lol:
Man no kidding lol :lol:

Flak

04-02-2006, 09:08 AM

Only few update...I'm playing with the new PzIV D 3-in-1 kit from DML's at the weekend ;) it looks super and detailed than Tristar's :(

Here we go...

The Fire Extinguisher in place...I have scratch built the Fire Extinguisher instead of the Tristar's

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=25756&img=8774Tri-PzIV-C-85.j.jpg

The Track Tension Lock Spanner in place

http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=25757&img=Tri-PzIV-C-86.j.jpg